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Posted by: Ken Snowden {Email left}
Location: Belfast
Date: Saturday 16th March 2013 at 1:32 PM
Hi alan, ive contacted you before about family who served in ww1 , my brother has discovered someone we beleive to be a relative,
here are his details we have found , john ayres snodden, he was a sargant in the 1st batt kings liverpool regement, his serv no is 9228, he was killed on the 07/05/1918 he is buried in a cemetery we think called cabaret rouge, grave no v111q29, in a town called souchez, i was hoping if the details given are correct and if you would have any other details on john, we think he also joined up in 1914, regards ken snowden
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 16th March 2013 at 7:56 PM

Dear Ken,
No individual service record appears to have survived for John Ayres Snodden so it is not possible to state his service. An Army medal rolls index card recorded he entered France on 12th August 1914 which was the date the 1st Battalion The King's (Liverpool Regiment) went to France with the 2nd Division. His pre-war residence at enlistment was shown as Dublin. He would have been a regular soldier or a reservist to have been with the 1st Battalion in August 1914 and to be in France within a week of war being declared. He was killed on 7th May 1918 while serving with the 1st Battalion The King's (Liverpool Regiment). It is therefore probable he served throughout with the 1st Battalion. See:

John Ayres Snodden was born in 1890 at Woolwich the son of John and Charlotte of Ritter Street. His father was an army shoeing smith.
John Ayres Snodden married Annie Jane Clark(e) on 6th October 1917 at Twickenham Parish Church (Holy Trinity).
Kind regards,
Reply from: Annabelle Morrison
Date: Tuesday 23rd April 2013 at 7:34 PM

John Ayers Snodden was the brother of my grandmother Anna Martha McWatters nee Snodden you can find her family on the 1911 Census for Northern Ireland living in Carnmoney. I have been researching her family tree and would be interested in finding out if Ken Snodden is connected.
Reply from: Robert Snowden
Date: Friday 3rd May 2013 at 11:22 AM

Hi Annabelle,
Ken Snowden is my brother. He asked about John Ayers Snodden. I believe that John Ayers Snodden's father, also John (born Aug 7, 1865, and married Charlotte Ayers, 1889) and listed as a Blacksmith in the Army in Dublin, was the son of John Snodden (1837-1865, married Elizabeth Cochrane, 1860). This last John, I believe is the brother of Francis Snodden (Snowden), my great-great grandfather. If I am correct then there is a definite family connection to yours. If you want to correspond with me you can reach me at:

(raptorslair2 at hotmail dot com)

I use this email so that if it is hit by spybots it does not matter!
Posted by: Jonboy {Email left}
Location: Harlow Essex England
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 4:35 PM
Hi Alan
Can you help me on this one please on William Franklin Born 1871 Shorditch,London.
All i know from my mums old diary is that he was in the Royal Defence Corps No:14470
cant seem to find out anything on his Military,all i know is he died in Chelsea.Many thanks.
Kind regards
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 7:46 PM

Dear Jonboy,
There were numerous Defence Corps established from the ranks of enthusiastic ex-servicemen and civilians at the outbreak of the First World War even the Boy Scouts had a Defence Corps. Most were established a county level and were organised by the county Territorial Army associatoions with the men working at weekends and evenings based on the home-defence battalions of the local Territorial Army drill halls. By March 1915, there was a Central Association of Volunteer Defence Corps whose men were "better deployed" on guarding railways and harbours. In March 1916 the Royal Defence Corps was formed from these earlier units and men served in Protection Companies assigned to guard strategic points or prisoner of war camps.
William Franklin 14470 RDC was discharged through sickness from the 64th Protection Company RDC on 23rd March 1918 at the age of 47. He was 5ft 6ins tall; had grey eyes and brown hair. He was a (house) painter in civilian life. He lived at 48 Yeoman's Row, Brompton Road, SW3. His military character was "very good; steady and well conducted". He was awarded a Silver War Badge for being discharged early through sickness. Service in the RDC did not qualify for any campaign medals.
He had enlisted on 21st October 1914, but there is no record with which defence unit he served between then and the formal creation of 64th Protection Company RDC in the Spring of 1916. He may have been a former serviceman or a reservist, or he may have been a civilian volunteer.
Kind regards,
Reply from: Jonboy
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 11:19 PM

Hi Alan
thanks for that info on William Franklin.
Posted by: Gary {Email left}
Location: Bingley
Date: Thursday 14th March 2013 at 8:13 PM
My Grandfather - James Abraham Chappell, living near Dewsbury in the West Riding at the outbreak of the great war. I have photos of him & 20 others in Royal Army Medical Corps uniform outside 'No 4 Waterloo House' looking like a training establishment. Any idea where this is?.
I also have photos of him with RAMC mates called Clifford and Frank (who married Agnes) probably also from the West Riding if anyone recognises these names.
I have been unable to find his military record so can only guess at his regiment but his Victory Medal record shows his regimental number to be 105763 can anyone help with a regiment?
I know he was evacuated to 2nd Birmingham War Hospital following a gas attack and he was there at Christmas 1915. We believe it was Chlorine Gas and wonder if it might have been from the battle of Loos on 25th Sept 1915? Any info about what RAMC units were at Loos?
Posted by: Julie {Email left}
Location: West Sussex
Date: Thursday 14th March 2013 at 12:36 PM
Dear Alan,

My mum's uncle was Stephen McCarthy. I have found a WW1 record for a Stephen McCarthy, ref. no. S17726 Rif. Brig. He enlisted on 26/11/15 and was discharged on 22/3/17, it states, wounds Para 392 XV1 KR.

I expect that there were many 'Stephen McCarthys' serving in WW1, do you know how I can find his home address at that time to determine if it was my great uncle,

Many thanks,

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 12:14 PM

Dear Julie,
You would need to discover Stephen McCarthy's date of birth, parish of birth and occupation by tracing his family tree backwards from the present. He could then be sought through the census returns to show where he was living up to the 1911 census. To identify him in military documents for the First World War you would need his address in 1914 and his regiment and regimental number, details of which might be found in private family documents.
Any surviving service records that would show an address can be searched using the regimental number. There were 14 men named Stephen McCarthy who served overseas in the First World War plus a further four listed as S. McCarthy. Only five service records have survived and they do not include Stephen McCarthy 17726 Rifle Brigade, so it is not possible to further identify him from those records.
Kind regards,
Reply from: Julie
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 2:09 PM

Dear Alan,

Many thanks for your reply.

My Great Grandfather,( Stephens father), died in 1905 in an accident in St Katherines docks. I could only find my great grandmother on 1911 census, in Stepney Workhouse where she died in 1912. For what ever reason, I cannot find any of the family members on 1911 census, I would love to know where they went during the period 1905 to 1920 (after that I have found addresses for 4 of the family).

I do know that Stephen married in 1914, so I can get a copy of his marriage certificate to find his address, and I'll go from there,

Thanks again,

Kind regards

Posted by: Paul Davies {Email left}
Location: Regina Sask Canada
Date: Thursday 14th March 2013 at 12:05 AM
F. Smith Sapper R.E.

I have his bible Mr. Greveson - it needs to go home - any idea?

I contacted the Legion in Southall re: Francis H. Elliott ( you looked him up for me) in hopes they have some idea as to family

Kind Regards
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 12:13 PM

Dear Paul,
The bible appears to have belonged to Frederick Smith, who was single, age 31, and lived with his mother at 1 Elinore Row, at Bloxwich, near Walsall, in Staffordshire, in 1914. He was a miner who was enlisted directly into the Corps of Royal Engineers as a tunneller's mate. He had lost his right eye before the war and worked with the sight of only his left eye. He went to France on 28th September 1915 but returned to the UK on 1st February 1916. He returned to France on 16th October 1916 but was sent home sick on 7th November 1916. He was discharged from the Army in the UK through sickness on 23rd August 1917He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal.
It is not possible for me to trace his descendants as that would be a time-consuming exercise involving considerable expense. The details of living relatives would be protected by British data protection laws so it would not be possible to publish them on the internet.
Kind regards,
Reply from: Paul Davies
Date: Friday 15th March 2013 at 1:44 PM

Thank you so much Mr. Greveson - I'll continue the search - what you told help tremendously Kind Regards

Posted by: Paul Davies {Email left}
Location: Regina Sask Canada
Date: Wednesday 13th March 2013 at 1:48 PM
Morning Mr. Greveson - I just found a Mons Star with "M1-08700 PTE F. ELLIOTT. A.S.C." stamped on the back. Can you help me trace the owner?
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 13th March 2013 at 6:08 PM

Dear Paul,
The medal belonged to Francis H. Elliott who enlisted in London on 30th October 1914 and joined the Mechanical Transport section of the Army Service Corps. He stated his age as 20, he had brown eyes and brown hair and he said his pre-war employment was "motor fitter and driver". He was trained briefly at Grove Park at Greenwich and was sent to France four days later on 4th November 1914 as a motor fitter and driver, only now he was in uniform. An Army medal rolls index card showed he first served with BMTD which would have been Base Mechanical Transport Depot, before he was assigned to a particular company. He later served with 66 Auxiliary Company ASC (also known as 933 Company ASC) which attached to and under the commanded of No 1 Motor Ambulance Convoy. In 1916 No 1 MAC was based at Amiens. Francis was still with them "in the field" in December 1918. Francis appears to have been a motor ambulance driver.
Francis Elliott qualified for the 1914 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. An application regarding these medals was made in 1924 by Lt Col R A Henderson, of Great House, Colyton, Devon, presumably on behalf of Francis.
In 1919, Francis Elliott was recorded as single and his home address was that of his sister at 63 Adelaide Road, Southall, Middlesex. In 1919, he was admitted to the Welsh Metropolitan War Hospital near Cardiff (Cardiff City Asylum, Whitchurch) and then moved to the Lord Derby War Hospital at Warrington (Lancashire County Asylum, Winwick) from where he was discharged to live at the Springfield Mental Hospital, Wandsworth Common, in September 1920. His disability was "delusional insanity".
Kind regards,
Reply from: Paul Davies
Date: Wednesday 13th March 2013 at 6:26 PM

Thanks Mr. Greveson - Such a sad story - I will now attempt to find his next of kin and return the medal. I made a donation to the Canadian Legion in your name like I always do. Have a great day.
Posted by: Terry {Email left}
Location: Embleton
Date: Wednesday 13th March 2013 at 10:23 AM
Dear Alan. You helped me once before in my efforts to trace details of men from our village who died in WW1. We have a mystery man. He is buried in the churchyard with what looks like a War Commission headstone. The inscription reads 'J.E.Cole served as 62371 Private J.E.Grey Royal Welch Fusiliers 17th October 1916' We think that formerly he served in the Border Regiment No 22483 We would like to know why he served under an assumed name, although the Army knew of this, and any other details. Thanks
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 13th March 2013 at 6:07 PM

Dear Terry,
J.E. Grey served in the Army as John Edward Grey. When he died his age was stated as 46. There appears to be no surviving service record for him.
The CWGC Debt of Honour states: "See Cole, the true family name". "Soldiers Died in the Great War" (HMSO 1921) recorded 62371 Royal Welsh (sic) Fusiliers as John Edward Grey, who died October 17th 1916 and had enlisted at Carlisle and formerly served in The Border Regiment as 22483. The depot of the Border Regiment was at Carlisle and regimental numbers beginning 224 were being allotted by the depot at Carlisle in August 1915, although the men were not restricted to residing at Carlisle and had enlisted at various Northern towns.
There appears to be no Army medal rolls index card for Cole or Grey with either number, which suggests he did not serve overseas. SDGW stated he "died" on 17th October 1916. The expression "died" meant he died other than as a result of war; i.e. not "killed in action" or "died of wounds".
His death was recorded as a civil death registered at Alnwick (GRO Deaths Oct-Dec 1916 volume 10B page 581).
When he died he was stationed in the UK with the 6th Garrison Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers. That Battalion had been raised at Aintree in September 1916, just a month before his death. Garrison battalions were formed of men who were too old or unfit to serve at the front and they were employed in forming garrison guards, particularly to release other battalions in Egypt and the Middle East. The 6th Garrison Battalion Royal Welsh Fusiliers eventually went to Egypt in January 1917.
The Royal Welsh Fusiliers styled themselves "Welch" although that spelling was not formally approved by King George VI until early in 1920.
Biographical details on war graves were collected from the relatives of deceased soldiers in 1920 when the then Imperial War Graves Commission wrote to each deceased person's next-of-kin. It would have been a relative that stated he served under an alias, not the Army. There is no evidence the Army knew of his family name being Cole. It is not possible to say why a man chose to serve under another name. The spelling of the surname Grey with an "e" was far less common than with an "a". It is not clear how he was connected to Embleton in Northumerland. There was an Isabella Grey (born about 1850) who was the landlady of the Rising Sun Inn, Embleton, in the 1891 and 1901censuses. She was still living at Embleton in 1911. She appears to have died in January 1917, but there is no evidence yet to link her.
Kind regards,
Reply from: Debs
Date: Saturday 23rd March 2013 at 10:13 AM

Just looked at the 1911 census and the address would appear to be Elmore Row. Unfortunately the Smith family weren't there - it's the Owen family.
Hope this helps.
Posted by: Liz {Email left}
Location: Isle Of Wight
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 5:36 PM
Dear Alan, I am trying to find any information on a William Eastman b.1845 and d.1890. He was in the Royal Artillery and stationed at Picton Place, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales in 1884. He died at 19 Picton Place in 1890. He was married to a Catherine Hoey. They had William jnr who was born at Picton Place in 1884 - this being why I am sure he was there at that time. This is all I know about him. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards. Liz
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 8:36 PM

Dear Liz,
You would be fortunate to find a service record for William Eastman unless he served long enough to receive a pension. There is no obvious record for him. The place of birth for a child provides primary evidence only that the mother and child were present. Soldiers were not stationed at domestic street addresses unless they served in the part-time Volunteers or Militia and lived at home. The age at death (45) of William Eastman whose death was recorded in 1890 may not be accurate as the stated age could only be provided by someone other than William. A William Eastman married a Catherine Hoey at Naas, Co. Kildare in Ireland in Jan-Mar 1879 (Vol 2 page 815). You can apply for certificates online at

Kind regards,
Posted by: Robert Leeson {Email left}
Location: Regina Sk Canada
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 3:53 PM
Do you have any information on a William Bayliss that served in the first world war in the Royal Engineers. I am visiting with a friend, Paul Davies. It is possible that our grandfathers may have met one another.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 4:12 PM

Dear Robert,
It is not possible to identify a soldier by name only. It is necessary to know additional information such as his regimental number; address on enlistment; year of birth. There were at least five men named William Bayliss who served in the Royal Engineers.
Kind regards,
Reply from: Robert Leeson
Date: Wednesday 13th March 2013 at 3:37 AM

Thanks Alan. My friend suggested that it would help if I can find a regimental number which I am now looking for. At least it was only 5 William Baylisses and not 135 like my friend thought might occur!
Posted by: Dave Williams {Email left}
Location: Birmingham
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 10:36 AM
Am trying to find some information regards Charles George Robert Marsh, I know he served in the Royal Field Artillery as I have his medals, there are only two medals, from the medal record card downloaded from The National Archive he wasn't entitled to any star medal. The number on the medals is 911554, on the medal record card this is preceeded by TF which I think refers to Territorial Force, the medal card also indicates a second number 281675. Other than this all I know is he survived the war as he was later presented with a Special Constabulary Medal during WW2. Any info would great.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 5:12 PM

Dear Dave,
No individual service record appears to have survived for Charles Marsh 911554 RFA so it may not be possible to trace his wartime service. The six-digit regimental numbers of the Territorial Force were allotted in February/March 1917 when all Territorial soldiers were re-numbered. If Charles had served before 1917 he may have had an (unrecorded) earlier TF regimental number. His medal rolls index card showed he did not qualify for the 1914-15 Star for service overseas before December 31st 1915, therefore he did not serve overseas until some occasion after January 1st 1916.
In early 1917, the regimental number 911554 was allotted to the Kent batteries of the Royal Field Artillery. The numbers in the range 910001-915000 were allotted to 222 Brigade RFA TF (1st/3rd Home Counties Brigade) which served in India and Mesopotamia. In Roman numerals it was designated CCXXII Brigade RFA in the 44th Home Counties Division.
When 222 Brigade left for India a second-line Territorial Force brigade was created to replace it at home. This was the 337 (CCCXXXVII) Brigade RFA (2nd/3rd Home Counties Brigade). This Brigade served in the UK until November 1917 when it was sent to Mesopotamia and joined the 18th Indian Division in February 1918.
The rules for issuing the British War Medal were that it was to be impressed with the details of the solider when he first served overseas. Therefore, in theory, Charles Marsh went abroad in 1917 after he had been given the new six-digit regimental number 911554 as that was the number stamped on his medals. He might, therefore, have served in 337 Brigade RFA in Mesopotamia from November 1917.
However, he was allotted a second regimental number, 281675, which it has not proved possible to trace. It is not known when he was allotted that number, so it is not possible to say with which other unit he served, nor where that unit was. Some other men with RFA numbers starting 911 also transferred to another unit with numbers starting 281. Many RFA six-digit numbers beginning 281 were allotted in the UK from the summer of 1919.
It is possible the Royal Artillery Museum may be able to identify the unit that allotted the number 281675 and whether it was a Territorial number of a post-war number. See:

The war diary of 222 Brigade is held at the National Archives at Kew, Surrey in item reference WO95/5188. The diary for 337 Brigade is WO95/5221.
Kind regards,
Reply from: Davew
Date: Monday 11th March 2013 at 5:40 PM

Thanks, some details add up as I know he lived and died in Kent so the fact his number is allocated to a Kent Brigade makes perfect sense.

Having some more details will now allow me to move on and do some more digging, many thanks.

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