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Posted by: Judy B {Email left}
Location: Australia
Date: Thursday 1st May 2014 at 1:48 PM
Can anyone tell me what happened the day Gilbert and others from that Battalion died. I have been told they were decoys . and it was known they were not coming home from this.. Is this true? Any information would be great.. Judy

Gilbert Sloan Wilson
Serjeant Service No: 265054 Date of Death: 09/09/1918 Age: 30 Regiment/Service: Royal Scots Fusiliers 11th Bn. Grave Reference IV. A. 14. Cemetery ST. VENANT-ROBECQ ROAD BRITISH CEMETERY, ROBECQ
Posted by: Trevor Purnell {Email left}
Location: Tillington W Sussex
Date: Thursday 1st May 2014 at 11:07 AM
Hello Alan,

Grateful for your help once again. I am struggling with a Coldstream Guardsman and not getting very far with the related museums and archives.

The soldier is Lance Sergeant William Stoner 11178, 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards. I know he entered the war early and gained the'Pip Squeak and Wilfred' medals. He was killed in action near Thiepval and is commemorated on the Loos Memorial. This is about all I know of his war service. Could you fill in any gaps?

Sincerely grateful

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 6th May 2014 at 9:55 PM

Dear Trevor,
Sorry for the delay. I'll deal with this.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 7th May 2014 at 12:48 PM

Dear Trevor,
William George Stoner was born at Petworth, Sussex in 1892, the son of William Stoner, a domestic gardener, and his wife Eliza. In 1911, William George Stoner was recorded as a brewery drayman (carter) boarding with an innkeeper at Lowheath, Petworth. His parents lived at Lowheath Cottage.
William's regimental number suggests he enlisted for wartime service at the outbreak of war. He enlisted at Chichester. He probably trained at Windsor with the 5th Reserve Battalion Coldstream Guards. He was posted to the 1st Battalion The Coldstream Guards who were in France and crossed the Channel with a draft of reinforcements on 24th February 1915. The Battalion was in the line at Cuinchy. Later, the 2nd Guards Brigade held a recently secured line in the coal mining area between Loos and Hulloch in the Pas de Calais.
The Guards' first major engagement of 1915 was the Battle of Loos (25th September to 8th October 1915). The 2nd Guards Brigade, including 1st Coldstream Guards commanded by Lt-Col A. Egerton, was held in reserve until September 27th when they were tasked with securing the Chalk Pit, which had been gained the day before, opposite the German positions at Bois Hugo just to the North of Loos en Gohelle. The 2nd Guards Brigade had the objective of advancing through Bois Hugo and Chalet Wood and then attack the German's redoubt from the North. They were at the Chalk Pit at 5 p.m. on the 27th September 1915. The Irish Guards were to pass through the Coldstreams to attack Puits XIV.bis, a pit head building with a tall chimney. However, the building couldn't be taken that night and they fell back. (This attack involved Rudyard Kipling's son, Lt. John Kipling, who was killed on September 27th ).
The 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards held the Chalk Pits through the night and at 3.45 p.m. on the next day, 28th September 1915, they were ordered to advance on Puits XIV.bis from the south face of the Chalk Pit, with covering fire by the Irish Guards. As soon as they advanced they were exposed to extremely heavy enfilade machine-gun fire from the enemy position in Bois Hugo. Some men reached the Puits but it was untenable and they fell back to the Chalk Pit.
Lance-Sergeant William G. Stoner, aged 23, was killed in action on the 28th September 1915. He has no named grave and is commemorated on the Loos Memorial. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Trevor Purnell
Date: Thursday 8th May 2014 at 5:48 PM


Many thanks for your very informative reply. I hadn't noticed that the CG battalion changed brigades just before the battle of Loos. Also thanks for making a link to Lt John Kipling; very interesting to read his story and the desperate lasting effect it had on his father. Once again I am very much indebted to you for your help.

Kind Regards,


Posted by: Cathy {Email left}
Location: Portsmouth Hampshire
Date: Tuesday 29th April 2014 at 4:20 PM
Hello, I am trying to research my grandfathers military history. His name was Amos John Hounsome - I have a copy of his medal card which states Victory, British & 14 Star medals. The medal card states he was a corporal then Lance Corporal in 2nd Battalion Rifle Brigade service number 3526. He also had a Silver War Badge. I was able to find from his SWB number that he enlisted on 14th Oct 1909 and was discharged on 16th June 1919 and that he had served overseas and was listed as a Sargeant. His service record doesn't appear to be online anywhere. Can anyone help me trace where he would have been stationed during his army career please. Some family members have suggested he was in India, Ireland and of course WW1 and also that he was a Quarter Master Sargeant. He did survive the war and died in 1960. Any help would be gratefully received.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 7th May 2014 at 10:24 AM

Dear Cathy,
The Army medal rolls index-card stated Amos Hounsome first served in a theatre of war from 7th November 1914 with the 2nd Battalion The Rifle Brigade (The Prince Consort's Own). It provides evidence only that he served in the 2nd Battalion The Rifle Brigade on first going to war. It is likely he served with them throughout his service, but it is not certain. No individual service record has survived for him, so it is not possible to state his service in detail. The highest rank recorded for him was Sergeant on his discharge in 1919. A sergeant might well have acted as a Company Quarter Master Sergeant which was an appointment for someone in the rank of Colour-sergeant.
The 2nd Battalion The Rifle Brigade was at Fort William in Calcutta, India, from 1908. In January 1912 they formed a guard of honour during the Royal Visit and then moved to Rawalpindi for training in mountain warfare at Baracao. In 1913 they were training at Kuldana, Murree and Rawalpindi. In September 1914 they left Kuldana and travelled to Bombay to sail for the UK (on SS "Somali"). The "Somali" arrived at Liverpool on October 22nd 1914 and the Battalion went to France on the night of 6th/7th November 1914 where they served in the 25th Infantry Brigade in the 8th Division. The engagements of the 8th Division are shown at:

The war diaries of the 2nd Battalion Rifle Brigade can be downloaded (charges apply) from The National Archives website. They are items 4, 5, and 6 at:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Cathy
Date: Wednesday 7th May 2014 at 5:51 PM

Dear Alan,

Thank you so much for your detailed reply to my questions about my grandfather. I will certainly follow up the websites you suggested. Can I ask another question please - would he have received an army pension and if so where can I look into that?

You provide a wonderful service for people like me who flounder in the dark. Thanks again.


Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 7th May 2014 at 6:06 PM

Dear Cathy,
No individual service record has survived for Amos Hounsome so it is not possible to state whether he applied for a pension or not. The majority of records were destroyed in the bombing of London in September 1940. Most discharged war-time soldiers received only a lump-sum gratuity. Those who were discharged through wounds or sickness could apply for a pension. They had to undergo an army medical board which would decide on the percentage of disability and award an interim pension. A further board in six months or a year would again assess his entitlement and possibly make a further award. In Amos's case the records have not survived.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Cathy
Date: Wednesday 7th May 2014 at 6:56 PM

Dear Alan

What a shame about his records - still leaves things in the dark so will just have to piece together what we have.

Thank you for such a prompt reply.

Best regards

Reply from: Bill
Date: Wednesday 26th November 2014 at 5:20 PM

Cathy, my name is Bill Hounsome and I research Hounsome men that served in the military. Do you have any photograph's of Amos Hounsome. I believe he served in Gallipoli.


Posted by: Christina {Email left}
Location: Endon
Date: Sunday 27th April 2014 at 11:07 AM
Hi Alan,
A group of us are preparing an interpretation board to accompany work we have done around the war memorial in our churchyard in Endon and which we need to complete before the end of May. We have gathered a number of interesting WW1 photos to use on the board or on the website and we are aware of another but need to trace a copy we can use. It's a group of wounded soldiers gathered on land which has been identified as the well dressing field in Endon. A local organisation does have a copy of the photo but says they are too busy to look for it for us. Can you advise me how I could search for this on the internet please? We have tried google and all the usual routes - are there any other resources you could point me towards?
Kind regards
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Sunday 27th April 2014 at 7:01 PM

Dear Christina,
It would be difficult to search for a specific photograph on the internet. It would be necessary to know that the image had been placed on a website and to search for it you would need to know how it had been indexed or captioned. A hands-on search could be made at Staffordshire County Record Office, Stafford, or at the Imperial War Museum.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Christina
Date: Sunday 27th April 2014 at 7:53 PM

Dear Alan
Many thanks for your helpful advice
Kind regards
Posted by: Vicki {Email left}
Location: Usa
Date: Saturday 26th April 2014 at 10:27 PM
For the World War I draft, upon turning 18 males were required to fill out a draft registration card showing next-of-kin. The library at the World War I monument in Kansas City, MO, looked to see if they had my grandfather's draft registration card -- they didn't. They said it was probably because he lied about his age to join the military. Were there any other W.W. I documents that would show next-of-kin? We can't find any record showing who his parents were.

His name was John George Miller.
Birthdate on military records: November 13, 1898.
Serial number: 1 463 812

Because we can't find any record of him from his birth until he joined the military, we suspect he may have changed his name when he joined as well as lied about his birth year.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Sunday 27th April 2014 at 7:02 PM

Dear Vicki,
A soldier's next-of-kin was not necessarily his parents. He might state a sibling, another relative, or wife. Draft Registration Cards asked for the name and address of the "nearest relative", which was not necessarily a parent.
Not all individual service records have survived. Those that have survived are held by the National Personnel Records Center, 1 Archives Drive, St. Louis, Missouri 63138, USA. The starting point for applications is shown at:

With kind regards,
Reply from: Vicki
Date: Sunday 27th April 2014 at 9:23 PM

Thank you for your quick response Alan! Years ago my mother tried contacting St. Louis only to find out that many of the World War I records (including my grandfather's) were destroyed in a fire.
Posted by: Peter {Email left}
Location: Billingham
Date: Saturday 26th April 2014 at 12:19 PM
Dear Alan looking to find information on Matthew Graham born / Enlisted Middlesbrough 13th Bn rifle Bgd DOW 26/5/18 grave Bagnevx British Cem geziancout france this cemetery has a old railway embankment runing along one side of it could this have been a hospital clearing station as he DOW could you also tell me if a war diary for the 13th Bn for this date
best Regards Peter.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 26th April 2014 at 10:43 PM

Dear Peter,
No individual service record has survived for Matthew Graham so it is not possible to state his wartime service in detail. An Army medal rolls index-card stated he entered France on 22 July 1915 which was the date the 13th Battalion The Rifle Brigade went to France, so it seems probable that he served with that battalion from the outset. The Battalion was raised at the Rifle Brigade's home of Winchester in October 1914 and trained at High Wycombe and Andover. It served in the 111th Infantry Brigade with the 37th Division. The Division's engagements can be seen at:

The CWGC says: "At the end of March, the 3rd, 29th and 56th Casualty Clearing Stations had come to Gezaincourt where they were joined for a short time in April by the 45th. They remained until September. The 3rd Canadian Stationary Hospital, in the citadel at Doullens, also buried in this cemetery in May and June 1918, and the 2nd Canadian Division in April and May".
The war diary of the 13th Battalion Rifle Brigade (01 August 1915 - 28 February 1919) is held at The National Archives at Kew, Surrey in catalogue reference WO 95/2534/1. You would need to visit Kew to see it.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Peter
Date: Sunday 27th April 2014 at 9:53 AM

Dear Alan Thank for the Information on Matthew. this will be a great help when we visit his grave in may with the family
very best regards Peter.
Posted by: Suemsmith {Email left}
Location: Sheffield
Date: Friday 25th April 2014 at 11:37 AM
Dear Alan

I wonder if you would very kindly give me some more assistance.

Rodney E Clarke - French Red Cross Driver
Born c.1895 - Wootton, Staffordshire

I cannot find anything about this chap except his Medal Card - where can I go to find out about the French Red Cross? Apparently he first entered Theatre of War 1 (a) in July 1915.

Many thanks in anticipation

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 25th April 2014 at 6:31 PM

Dear Sue,
Voluntary ambulance drivers with the French Red Cross were engaged by The British Ambulance Committee and worked in small sections in France, led by Commandant New. The sections were formed within Ambulance Convoys and in French they were known as a Section Sanitaire Anglaise or S.S.A.. The president of the British Ambulance Committee was the Duke of Portland. The Committee started raising money in November 1914 after initial success helping Belgium and then an appeal by the French Red Cross Society.
The birth of a Rodney Edward Clarke was registered at Ashbourne registration district, Derbyshire, in April-June 1895. He was the son of William Henry Clarke and his wife Elizabeth. In the 1901 census William was recorded as a gardener at Wootton Hall, Staffordshire. In 1911, Rodney and his parents lived at Stanton, Ashbourne, where Rodney was recorded as a 16-year-old farm labourer. A medal rolls index card recorded Rodney served from July 1915 as a driver with the French Red Cross [Croix Rouge Française] in the theatre of war "1 (a)" which was France and Belgium. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Allied Victory Medal as a member of the auxiliary services and Voluntary Aid Detachments (V.A.D.) who had served in a theatre of war.
By being overseas from July 1915, Rodney would have been absent during the National Registration which took place on August 15th 1915 in anticipation of compulsory conscription which came into force in 1916.
Many men who served with the Red Cross and other aid organisations, such as the Friends Ambulance Service run by a committee of The Society of Friends (the Quakers), were pacifists. However, there was, particularly in 1915, a campaign in the UK to provide ambulances, "ambulance cars", maintenance vehicles and crews for the French Red Cross. The campaign emphasised that the best industrial land in France was then under German occupation; the richest commercial centres had been devastated; every man between 19 and 48 had been called-up and business was at a standstill. The French Army was far larger than the British Expeditionary Force and therefore they required a greater amount of assistance although French field hospitals near the front also served the British.
By February 1915 the British Ambulance Committee, Wimborne House, Arlington Street, London*, had provided 90 motor ambulance cars; five staff cars and a motor repair lorry for the French Red Cross. King George V inspected one of the convoys at Buckingham Palace. All the drivers were unpaid volunteers. Some provided their own vehicles which they had donated for conversion. Other clubs donated ambulances, such as the Midlands Automobile Club who raised £430 and purchased a vehicle to be used as an ambulance car in France. In the spring of 1916, there was an urgent appeal for 25 new vehicles to replace war-damaged ones. The Ambulance Committee publicised the fact they ran 120 volunteer ambulances in the French sector, including Verdun.
Having the skill to drive a motor vehicle in 1915 was not common and motor vehicles themselves were still few compared to horse transport. It was suggested that the cars would operate in sections of six vehicles and that six friends could volunteer together with their vehicles to form a section. The drivers and stretcher-bearers had to wear civilian clothes with the French Red Cross providing distinctive armbands. The volunteers were forced to sign an agreement not to talk to the Press and to work entirely under military control and discipline of the region in which they were to work. Volunteers had to have been vaccinated for smallpox and inoculated against typhoid.
Conditions were described in "The Story of British V.A.D. Work in the Great War", by Thekla Bowser (1917) which quoted Commandant New: "Without warning the order came to move up to the front again. This meant another exhausting day for everyone, from early morn till late afternoon. When we reached our new camping ground one and all were so coated with dust that we were like old men with white hair and moustaches. There was no water, so with parchment-like lips we made our camp on the hillside far more bare than the Downs near Brighton.
"Through all this our Ambulances stand in the open near the poste de secours, [aid post] a dug-out heavily sand-bagged and cut into the hillside. The wounded arrive by scores; not an instant is lost. The car is loaded and passes away into the darkness. Will it ever reach safety? Another follows and another, hour by hour, until as the day breaks a thick white fog obscures everything and soaks the exhausted men. But the Ambulance has to run the gauntlet again all the way. It has a groaning load of suffering; the shell holes in the road are to be avoided. Few men can keep a steady pace when the car is struck and mud and stones fly everywhere in the blackness. Still, though half-choked with smoke, nothing less is expected."
Fund raising in the UK for the French Red Cross was at its height in 1915 with local committees in every large town or city organising "Tricolour Flag Days", taking their lead from the Duchess of Somerset; Lady Arthur Paget and Lady Ermyntrude Malet*, who organised a "France's Day" fund- raising campaign. There was also publicity for the work done by the search dogs of the French Red Cross that helped find the wounded under rubble and debris.
In addition to the War Office approved medals, there were both French and British Red Cross awards. For example, those who gave 500 hours of ambulance driver/bearer unpaid service could be eligible for the British Red Cross War Medal. There were other awards for special service or merit, and the French conferred the Medalllion d'Honneur for meritorious Red Cross service.

Enquiries about wartime service and medals can be made to the British Red Cross museums and archives service, but they must be made in writing. See: "How do I search for someone" at:

The details of the French Red Cross are at:
See also
A Rodney E Clark married Augusta E. Haynes at Derby in 1926. A Rodney Edward Clarke born 8th February 1895, died at Derby in 1971; an Augusta Emily Clarke died at Derby in 1977.

*Wimborne House was the London home of Ivor Guest, Lord Wimborne, who was the son of Ivor Guest, 1st Baron Wimborne and Lady Cornelia, daughter of John Spencer-Churchill, the 7th Duke of Marlborough. That made Lord Wimborne a cousin of Winston Churchill.
*Susan Margaret Richards Mackinnon married Algernon Seymour, later 15th Duke of Somerset.
She became a Dame Grand Cross of the Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem, and was awarded the Medal of the Queen Victoria and Queen Alexandra Nurses Institution; the Belgian Queen Elisabeth Medal; the French Médaille de la Reconnaissance; the Italian Medaglia Benemeriti Croce Rossa; the Serbian Red Cross Order, and the Spanish Red Cross Merit Orde.
Lady Paget was an American who married General Rt. Hon. Sir Arthur (Henry Fitzroy) Paget. During the war she ran a hospital in Serbia in co-operation with the Red Cross.
Lady Ermyntrude Russell, daughter of the Duke of Bedford, married Sir Edward Malet, British Ambassador to the Court of Berlin. "No one was more popular or intimate with the present Kaiser than Lady Ermyntrude Malet, wife of the late British Ambassador, Sir Edward Malet in Berlin. The Kaiser usually spent an hour every day at the British Embassy. Lady Ermyntrude Malet was one of the most intellectual women in the diplomatic family. (Franziska, Baroness von Hedeman "Love Stories of Court Beauties", New York, 1917, page 47). These, and many other, ladies loaned their mansions to the wounded (ibid, page 338).
The aim of the British Ambulance Committee, whose headquarters were at Wimborne House, Arlington Street, Piccadilly, a mansion lent by Lady Wimborne, was to make up the deficiency in the number of motor-cars available for ambulance work in France. The British Red Cross had provided sufficient vehicles for the needs of the B.E.F. at the time.
"The British Red Cross having secured sufficient ambulances for the immediate wants of the British troops, it was felt that those in a position to help our ally should be invited to do so. As a result £15,000, including a donation from Lord Ashton of £5,000, was subscribed within a week of the Committee's appeal; motor-cars and contributions continue to be received; and the honorary secretaries, Mr. B. Peyman and Mrs. G. Cecil Baker, have their hands completely full in attending to the multifarious requirements of the organization.
"The Committee appeal for both cars and money to run them. When cars are lent, the owners may drive and take their own mechanics if considered necessary; owners may drive and be provided with a mechanic; or owners may send their cars alone. A minimum expenditure of £50 upon each car supplied is necessary to convert it into an ambulance and complete its outfit, and the cost of maintenance is estimated at about £10 per week. All cars offered must, of course, satisfy certain standards in point of size and equipment. The French have ten times as many men at the front as we have, and their wounded are proportionately more numerous. Their ambulance transport for the moment needs strengthening" (Letter to "The Spectator", 28th November 1914 from Theodore A Cook). Theodore Andrea Cook was knighted in 1916 as editor of "The Field" and its contribution to the war effort.
Clarke R.E. is listed as a "British Subject on Red Cross work" on page 342 of the history of British aid to the French "For Dauntless France" compiled for the British and French Red Cross Societies by Edmund Dulac. See:

With kind regards,
Reply from: Suemsmith
Date: Friday 25th April 2014 at 7:38 PM

Dear Alan

Many many thanks for your very comprehesive reply. I shall read and digest with very much interest.

Thank you

Best wishes

Posted by: Tom {Email left}
Location: Australia
Date: Wednesday 23rd April 2014 at 1:00 PM
Hi Alan
A few months ago you provided me with some invaluable information based on a portrait photo. The photo was of my granduncle, James,'Jim' Moore, born 1878. We knew that Jim was Irish and served with the RGA No 4 Depot ( heavy and siege) based in Ripon prior to WW1. You were able to tell us that he had also served in the first and second Boer wars.
At the time, I gave you a number -41654- which I thought may have been his service number, but you were unable to locate any James Moore to that number. Just looking at the number again, the first number is, I think, the letter A. ie A1654. Is this possibly a service number? If it is, is there anything else you may be able to tell me?
Thank you in advance for any information at all
Kind Regards
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 23rd April 2014 at 7:40 PM

Dear Tom,
There are no records that match James Moore with the number A1654.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Tom {Email left}
Location: Australia
Date: Wednesday 23rd April 2014 at 12:58 PM
Hi Alan
A few months ago you provided me with some invaluable information based on a portrait photo. The photo was of my granduncle, James,'Jim' Moore. We knew that Jim was Irish and served with the RGA No 4 Depot ( heavy and siege) based in Ripon prior to WW1. You were able to tell us that he has also served in the first and second Boer wars.
At the time, I gave you a number -41654- which I thought may have been his service number, but you were unable to locate any James Moore to that number. Just looking at the number again, the first number is I think the letter A. ie A1654. Is this possibly a service number? If it is, is there anything else you may be able to tell me?
Thank you in advance for any information at all
Kind Regards
Posted by: Gill Sykes {Email left}
Location: Burton
Date: Tuesday 22nd April 2014 at 10:10 AM
Dear alan,
You have been very helpful recently so I am coming back for more! You have helped me with information about my grandfather Nathaniel Priest .who was injured in late 1916 early 1917. He served with the KOYLI's 8th(Service)
Battalion, 70th Brigade Serial No. 27219. Would there be any way of finding out where and when he was injure?.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 22nd April 2014 at 8:19 PM

Dear Gill,
You would be very fortunate to find a record of where and when Nathaniel Priest was wounded. Soldiers' service records would have indicated a date, but these have not always survived, as in the case of Nathaniel Priest. Casualty lists were compiled at the time by the battalions in the field and were passed up to the War Office and then to the soldier's local record office who informed the next- of-kin. The letter sent to the next-of-kin (only officers' families were informed by telegram) might have survived in family muniments. Copies of the casualty lists were occasionally entered in the unit's war diary as appendices. The official casualty lists were published by the War Office and extracts were published in local newspapers. However, the official lists don't provide a date or location, but indicate within a week or two when a soldier was wounded. Official casualty lists only indicated the soldier's name and regimental number listed by regiment. Because the high number of casualties was an embarrassment to the government and a threat to civilian morale, "The Daily Telegraph" and the "Morning Post" ceased publishing the lists at the end of 1916, and towards the end of 1917 "The Times" restricted the lists to officers only. Local newspapers often published details relevant to their readership.
So, the search would be in war diaries; archived official casualty lists; or newspapers.
The 8th Battalion KOYLI war diary is held at The National Archives at Kew. Only a few war diaries list casualties by name. The 8 KOYLI war diary is in two parts. The earlier part up to the end of 1917 is available to download online for a charge of £3.30. See:

The official casualty lists are archived by The British Library in London. Their newspaper collection is undergoing a major change at the moment and is being moved to Yorkshire. Much of it is not available until Autumn 2014. See:

The subscription website "The Genealogist" has transcribed some casualty lists.
Local newspapers of the time would be kept by the local studies library of the town in which Nathaniel lived.
In some cases, hospital admission records might have survived. They are held at various repositories around the country. There is a searchable database compiled by the Wellcome Library for the History and Understanding of Medicine. See:

With kind regards,

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