The World War 1 Forum (Page 41)

How To Contact Someone on this forum Please Read
To find your Own Messages search for the name you originally used.
This forum supports the Royal British Legion so please donate generously.
Please Reply to anyone you can help.

The forum has 313 pages containing 3128 messages
-10   Prev Page   37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45   Next Page   10+

Posted by: Richard {Email left}
Location: Canberra Australia
Date: Friday 18th September 2015 at 7:09 AM

Mr Grandfather Frederick Harris Pte 20371 "Soldiers Effects'' states that he was serving with the 1st Sup East Surrey Regiment. Do you know what the 1st sup was?
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 18th September 2015 at 4:06 PM

Dear Richard,
Frederick Harris served in the 2nd/6th Battalion East Surrey Regiment. The entry reads 1st Sup Co which would usually refer to 1st Support Company. The 2nd/6th Battalion was a second-line reserve battalion which from October 1915 to July 1916 was based at Redhill, Surrey.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Richard
Date: Saturday 19th September 2015 at 5:51 AM

Dear Alan Greveson,

Thank you for the information. Had me puzzled.
Kind regards,
Posted by: Bella {No contact email}
Location: Esher
Date: Thursday 17th September 2015 at 7:15 PM
Dear Alan,

Sorry to have to ask but having trouble finding details of my paternal Great Grandfather. William Whitehead born Southwark, Surrey 1835 and his parents.. Am trying to trace his marriage details to a Martha ? also born Southwark in 1841. It would seem she had her first child at 16 - was that legal? followed by two more.

If you can assist in any way, will be most grateful.

Hope you are in good health.

With best wishes,

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Friday 18th September 2015 at 4:07 PM

Dear Bella,
I am in good health, thank you.
To conduct an effective search for an individual it is necessary to have five pieces of information which are consistent over the years. They are: name; age; place; occupation; and relatives. (This rarely happens but it is a good guide to start from). With a name such as William Whitehead, and only the census information to go on, I am going to have to make suggestions for, rather than provided evidence for, the couple you are seeking.
I believe they might be the couple recorded in the 1871 England census as William Whitehead, greengrocer, age 36, born Southwark (about 1835) living at Camden Street, St. Mary Newington, with his wife, Martha, aged 30 (born about 1841) and children Martha, 14 (born about 1857); Elizabeth, 12; and William, 9, all of Southwark.
The children�s actual birth certificates would identify them further but the certificates might be difficult to identify in the General Register Office online indexes.
Going back a decade to the 1861 census, there was a W. Whitehead who was a greengrocer, aged 27 (born 1834, City of London) and his wife Martha, aged 25 (born 1836, Lambeth) who were recorded at Southwark Bridge Road, with two daughters, Martha, aged 4 and Elizabeth, 2.
Elizabeth�s baptism was recorded on 19th September 1858 at St George The Martyr , Southwark (born September 3rd 1858) the daughter of William Whitehead, greengrocer, and Martha Whitehead of Southwark Bridge Road.
Seeking a marriage of a William Whitehead and a Martha prior to the birth of Elizabeth Whitehead in 1858 provided unsatisfactory evidence.
However, it would be worth further investigating the marriage of William Whitehead, bachelor, of full age (21 plus), coachman, Union Road; father Thomas, wine cooper; to Martha Gatland, minor (under 21), spinster, of Frederick Place, daughter of William Gatland, gardener, which took place on 19th August 1855 at the parish church of St Mary, Newington.
From that marriage certificate, William�s father was a wine cooper. The baptismal register of St Olave, Bermondsey, includes a William Whitehead, born 24th March 1833 and baptised 7th April 1833, the son of Thomas and Jane Whitehead of 70 Tooley Street. Thomas was a wine cooper. St Olave, Bermondsey, was in Southwark.
From the same marriage certificate, Martha Gatland was aged under 21 when she married. So, she would have been born earlier than August 1834 (the August 1855 marriage minus 21 years).
A baptismal record for St Mary�s Church, Lambeth, records a baptism on June 19th 1835, for a Martha Gatland, the daughter of William and Emma Gatland of George Street, Lambeth, William was a gardener. The baptism of the child could have been some distance from her actual date of birth. The compulsory birth registrations did not commence until July 1837, so the actual date-of-birth of Martha Gatland cannot be established. The 1841 census showed a Martha Gatland, aged 6, the fourth child of William and Emma Gatland at Princes Road, Lambeth, Surrey.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Bella Esher
Date: Friday 18th September 2015 at 6:16 PM

Dear Alan,

Thank you so much for all information to which you have gone to immense trouble.

It is really most appreciated.

With kind regards.

Posted by: Steve C {Email left}
Location: Hornchurch
Date: Tuesday 15th September 2015 at 12:46 PM
Hi Alan.

I am looking for info on my grandfather, John Curley, Driver RFA 49390. His medal roll shows he landed in France on the 29th October 1915, but that is all I have.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards,

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 15th September 2015 at 7:27 PM

Dear Steve,
Unfortunately, no individual service record has survived for John Curley 49390 Royal Field Artillery, so it is not possible to state his wartime service. Little can be gleaned from his medal rolls entry other than his date of entry to France and Flanders.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Steve C
Date: Wednesday 16th September 2015 at 10:30 AM

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Kind regards,

Reply from: Janine
Date: Friday 23rd October 2015 at 2:48 PM

I just seen this and i thought i would add that i have three medal for J Curley 89565 R.F.A. I dont know if this is the same person
Posted by: Steve {No contact email}
Location: London
Date: Monday 14th September 2015 at 9:58 PM
Hi Alan, hope you are doing good, i came across the site a few years ago, and every now and again i like to come on for a read. Anyway i was telling a friend about the site and he has asked me to post and see if you can tell him anything about a James Briton service No. 280566 He is not sure of the regiment, but we think it may be the 7th Bt H.L.I

I hope you can find something out for us, we would really appreciate it

Take care Alan, Kind regards, Steve
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 15th September 2015 at 7:10 PM

Dear Steve,
No individual service record has survived for James Briton, so it is not possible to state his service in detail. He served with the 7th Battalion Highland Light Infantry and became a Lance-corporal with that Battalion. He first served in a theatre of war from 2nd July 1915. That date coincides with the arrival of the 7th H.L.I. on the Gallipoli peninsula having sailed from Devonport on 26th May 1915 and sailing via Alexandria (where they stayed from 5th to 28th June 1915) and Mudros (1st July 1915). The Battalion remained at Gallipoli until 8th January 1916 when it was withdrawn via Mudros to Egypt where it arrived in February 1916. The Battalion left Egypt on 11th April 1916 and arrived at Marseilles, France, on 17th April 1916. The Battalion remained in France and Flanders in the 157th Infantry Brigade in the 52nd Division. See:
James Briton qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. He survived the war and returned to civilian life on 4th June 1919.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Steve
Date: Tuesday 15th September 2015 at 9:22 PM

Thanks Alan, the information is very much appreciated. Me and my friend were talking about this today and my friend has said that James was awarded the MM as a Pte. and later the DCM as a L/Cpl, as he has the replicas after the museum lost the originals. Would it be possible to find out how, where and when he would have been awarded these ? or even point me in the right direction to find out anything else that could shed some light on James.

Thanks again, and take care my friend,

Kind regards, Steve
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 15th September 2015 at 11:38 PM

Dear Steve,
Citations for the Military Medal were not published nationally so it is not possible to say why the award was made. The promulgation of the award would have been made in the official government publication, The London Gazette, some weeks or months after the event. You can search the Gazette online if you have a microscope and the patience of a saint. See:
You could then study the war diary of the 7th H.L.I.. the later part of it can be downloaded from The National Archives for a small charge, and it might refer to when he won the award.
The awards of the Distinguished Conduct Medal have been transcribed online.
It reads: 280566 L/Cpl J Briton MM HLI (Glasgow) was medically orderly to Battalion HQ and was helping the medical officer to dress wounded men in a shell hole when a shell burst over the killing the medical officer and killing or wounding everyone who was there. Corporal Briton in spite of being wounded himself, continued to attend to the other wounded men and throughout the day until another medical officer arrived, he followed up the battalion and dressed wounded men under fire. His splendid example of devotion to duty was admired by all ranks of the battalion.
The award was announced in The London Gazette on 15th November 1918 but did not state when the award was earned.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Stephen Mcfarlane {Email left}
Location: Belfast
Date: Monday 14th September 2015 at 9:29 PM
Hi Alan could you get me any information on Sgt James Ruddock 6561 2nd batt rir died 12.10.14. thank you
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 14th September 2015 at 11:21 PM

Dear Stephen,
No individual service record has survived for James Ruddock, so it is not possible to be precise about his military service. His regimental number with the Royal Irish Rifles was 3/6561 which suggests he might have been a special reservist. That meant he might have been a pre-war, part-time, soldier who accepted the responsibility of being called-up in the event of national emergency. Special Reservists replaced the old Militia battalions and underwent six months initial training followed by annual training for a few weeks each year. The prefix 3 referred to the regimental depot battalion that was numbered three after the two regular army battalions numbered one and two. The regimental depot was based at Belfast until the outbreak of war when it moved to Dublin on August 8th 1914. In 1914 Ireland was not divided and the British Army there was administered from Command HQ at Phoenix Park, Dublin, under supervision from the War Office in London.
The Army medal rolls stated Sergeant James Ruddock went overseas on 26th August 1914. It is noted he was already a sergeant and would probably have served some years to attain that rank unless it was a wartime appointment. His wartime service was with the 2nd Battalion Royal Irish Rifles. The 2nd Battalion had crossed the English Channel from Southampton to Havre on the night of August 13th/14th 1914. They had been garrisoned at Tidworth, Wiltshire, England, when they received the message to mobilize at 6 p.m. on August 4th 1914. So, it seems Sergeant Ruddock was part of a draft of reinforcements to the 2nd Battalion Royal Irish Rifles. When he arrived in France on 26th August 1914, the Battalion had already been engaged at The Battle of Mons and the subsequent retreat, including the Rearguard action of Solesmes and was fighting in The Battle of Le Cateau on the day he arrived in France, August 26th. He would have caught up with them a day or two later. The 2nd Battalion then fought at The Battle of the Marne; The Battle of the Aisne including participation in the Actions on the Aisne heights; The Battles of La Bassee; and The Battle of Messines 1914 in which James was killed.
James Ruddock was killed in action near La Couture on 12th October 1914. The Battalion had arrived in billets at Hinges late on the evening of October 11th 1914. They were pursuing the enemy and caught up with them the next morning, October 12th 1915, at La Couture which was under shell fire. A battalion of the South Lancashire Regiment formed a bridgehead over the river Loisne which was crossed by the 2nd Royal Irish Rifles, one company at a time, with a few casualties. They spent the night of the 12th October at La Couture and advanced towards St Vaast the next morning. The town of Ypres, which was to become so notorious, was captured by the British the next day, October 13th 1914.
James Ruddock qualified for the 1914 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory medal. He has no marked grave and is commemorated on the Le Touret Memorial to the missing of 1914-1915.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Stephen Mcfarlane
Date: Tuesday 15th September 2015 at 9:24 PM

Many thanks alan

Posted by: Andy Smith {Email left}
Location: Newport
Date: Saturday 12th September 2015 at 9:38 AM
Hello Alan,
I am attempting to research my grandfather's WW1 military service. I would be extremely grateful if you can expand on the details below :-

Albert Victor CAUDWELL

Born 20/10/1897 @ Barlborough, Derbyshire

Died December 1936 @ Chesterfield, Derbyshire

Regiment - Royal Field Artillery

Regimental Number - 219497 (Driver)

For your information I have researched the 1911 Census which strangely records my Great Grandfather Fred CAUDWELL and Great Grandmother Sarah Ann CAUDWELL residing in Barlborough with their 8 children. Their children including my grandfather at the time aged 13yrs are all recorded in the census under the surname of CANDWELL.

I have possession of my grandfathers WW1 medals which also bear the details of CANDWELL and Regimental number 219497.

I have researched the British Army WW1 Medal Rolls Index cards 1914 - 1918 via which shows the following details :-

British War Medal & Victory Medal

Award Rolls Number 39738

Roll - RFA / 298B

WO 329

Piece Number 167

Place - Woolwich

Date 20-5-1920

I have also found Albert CANDWELL - Driver R.F.A. 219497 recorded in WW1 Medal Rolls / Index cards with the below listed individuals :-

George NEWTON - Gunner R.F.A. 219496

Albert Reginald FULWOOD - Gunner R.F.A. 219499

Fred Atkinson MALTBY - Gunner R.F.A 219504 Died 21-03-1918

Elias Harold LEAFE - Gunner R.F.A 219506

I was wondering if the four individuals I have listed above also served with my grandfather in the same artillery battery ?

The only other piece of information I have is that my mother has always relayed to me that although my grandfather survived the war, he suffered from being gassed at some point and was always in ill health due to the effects. These effects ultimately contributed to his early death in 1936 aged 39yrs.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards

Andy Smith
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 12th September 2015 at 6:22 PM

Dear Andy,
Unfortunately, no individual service record has survived for Albert Candwell or Caudwell so it is not possible to state his military service. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. As he did not qualify for the 1914-15 Star, he did not serve abroad until 1916 or later. There is no guarantee that men with regimental numbers allotted sequentially would have served together throughout the war.
With kind regards
Reply from: Andy Smith
Date: Saturday 12th September 2015 at 9:52 PM

Thank you very much for your prompt reply. If there is any other avenue of research that I can pursue can you advise.
Thank you again
Posted by: Sue {Email left}
Location: Australia
Date: Friday 11th September 2015 at 10:40 PM

I am trying to trace the WW1 military records for a distance relative

RUNDLE, Frederick Arthur - Rank: Private Regimental No: 3725 Corps: M. G. C.

" " " " No: 9632 Corps: Suff. R. or Supp. R.

Source Image: British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

What do the abbreviated Corps Initials stand for?

Your assistance is much appreciated
Reply from: Aan Greveson
Date: Saturday 12th September 2015 at 12:40 AM

Dear Sue,
No individual service record has survived for Frederick Arthur Rundle, so it is not possible to state his military service. Most records were destroyed in the bombing of London in 1940. He first served overseas as a private soldier in the Machine Gun Corps and was later transferred to the Suffolk Regiment which was an infantry regiment. It is not possible to suggest where or when he served. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. As he did not qualify for the 1914-15 Star for service overseas before December 31st 1915, he did not serve overseas until some date after January 1st 1916. He survived the war.
With kind regards,
Posted by: John {No contact email}
Location: Cambridgeshire
Date: Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 9:29 AM
Hello Alan
I am making contribution's to a W.W.1 project for the men Croydon-cum-Clopton Cambs
who died in the Great War, there are 15 names on the memorial which includes 4 of our
family, the project is being displayed in the village church. I am hoping that you would
help me with one of two brothers who died in the war.
He is Private 54420 James Ingrey West Riding Regiment, he died on 9th September 1918.
His brother Harry 3/8232 Suffolk Rgt also died, I have a little information regarding Harry
but anything you could find would be very much appreciated thank-you
yours sincerely
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 6:30 PM

Dear John,
James Ingrey was also recorded as James John Ingery. He was conscripted, aged 18, on 30th August 1917 when he attested and was placed on the reserve. He was a butcher; with a scar on his right thumb; he was 5ft 7ins tall. He was called-up on 1st October 1917 at Bedford and joined the 27th Training Reserve Battalion for basic training at Clipstone Camp, Mansfield, on 2nd October 1917. On 11th October 1917 he suffered acute appendicitis and was admitted to Clipstone Military Hospital to have his appendix removed. He resumed training on 16th November 1917. On 23rd January 1918 at Rugeley Camp, Cannock Chase, he suffered pneumonia and was in hospital at the Rugeley Military Hospital until 8th February 1918. On 7th May 1918 James was transferred to the 4th Reserve Battalion of the Duke of Wellingtons West Riding Regiment at Brocton Camp, adjacent to Rugeley Camp. The 4th Reserve Battalion moved to Bromeswell near Woodridge, Suffolk, in July 1918.
On 17th August 1918 James was posted to the B.E.F. in France and he sailed from Folkestone to Boulogne before going to an Infantry Base Depot on the French coast. Ten days later he joined the 9th Battalion Duke of Wellingtons West Riding Regiment in the field on 27th August 1918. The Battalion was engaged in the Battle of Bapaume (21 August to 3rd September). They then fought in the battles for the Hindenburg Line at Havrincourt on 7th September 1918 and Epehy on 18th September 1918. James was shot in the chest at Epehy and died of wounds at No. 3 Casualty Clearing Station on 19th September 1918. He was buried at Thilloy Road Cemetery, Beaulencourt. The cemetery was begun early in September 1918, and used during the latter part of the month and the early part of October by the 3rd, 4th and 43rd Casualty Clearing Stations. James qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. His next-of-kin was his sister, Mary Jane, of 33 Croydon Road, Royston, Herts.. He has served 354 days of which 23 days were at the Front.
Harry Albert Ingrey was a Lance-corporal in the Special Reserve of the Suffolk Regiment from 1911. The Special Reserve involved part-time service over a period of six years with responsibility to be called-up in the event of a national emergency. The men initially had six months full-time training, with the same pay as a regular soldier, followed by three or four weeks training each year afterwards. The Special Reservists belonged to the 3rd Battalion Suffolk Regiment, at Bury St Edmunds. Harry Ingrey was recorded in the 1911 England census as a 17-year-old private soldier in the Special Reserve of the 3rd Battalion Suffolk Regiment, so he was probably undergoing his initial training in April 1911 when the census was taken. He would have been mobilized at the outbreak of war with the 3rd Battalion Suffolk Regiment which moved to Felixstowe on 9th August 1914. Lance-corporal Ingrey disembarked in France on 14th April 1915 where he would have been part of a draft of reinforcements to the 1st Battalion Suffolk Regiment which had been in France since January 1915 with the 84th Infantry Brigade in the 28th Division, having returned from India. Harry Ingrey was killed in action on April 24th 1915, ten days after he arrived in France, when the 28th Division was engaged in the Second Battle of Ypres which was fought from 22nd April to 25th May 1915. Harry Ingrey has no marked grave and is commemorated on the Menin Gate Memorial at Ypres. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: John Tiller
Date: Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 8:52 PM

Dear Alan
I thank you once again for helping me, the information you have so promptly given me is
more than than I had expected and it is very much appreciated, I hope to visit Croydon
church with your research in the next few days, many thanks once again

Yours sincerely John
Posted by: Ian Gotts {Email left}
Location: St Albans
Date: Sunday 6th September 2015 at 10:19 PM
I am researching someone called John Gotts who worked for the LGOC and went to France between 1914 and 1916.
There is a copy of the form completed by the Old Kent Road Garage confirming his details with his Army service record.
His licence number is 9176 (I think 76 not 46), John Gotts of 15 Marsala Road Lewisham, having had a licence for 1 year 8 months.
His Army Service number was CMT/2635, though it is also shown as ASC (SR)2638.

Although he joined RASC Special Reserve in March 1914, he was sent to France 11/8/1914.

I would assume that since his occupation was especially flagged up on recruitment, it is likely that he drove an omnibus for deploying troops. His service record does not show which company he was with, and so I cannot work out where he would have been deployed.

The page with the details is available here: , but it is very difficult to make out any company number. It is possible that he didn't drive buses, of course. Can anyone shed any light on which company he would be in and hence where he would have been in France?
Ian Gotts
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 7th September 2015 at 3:17 PM

Dear Ian,
John Gotts enlisted in the Special Reserve Category C Army Service Corps, mechanical transport, with a commitment to be called-up at seven days notice in the event of national emergency. Being the driver of a petrol omnibus he would have been aware of the pre-war subsidized transport scheme whereby the purchase of petrol buses and lorries could be subsidized by government grant if their owners ensured they were manufactured to War Department specifications so they could be requisitioned readily. By 1912 the subsidy was GBP 110 a year. The specifications were that the vehicle had to have four forward gears and one reverse; the gear lever knob had to be round and the brake lever square. Shaft driven transmission was preferred. In 1906 the London General Omnibus Company invested one million pounds converting the horse drawn fleet to petrol driven buses and in 1908 a demonstration was given by the L.G.O.C. and the army Eastern Division whereby 24 omnibuses transported troops from Hounslow to Shoeburyness.
John Gotts was mobilized at Bristol on 6th August 1914 to sail from Avonmouth with elements of the British Expeditionary Force. He sailed on the night of 11th /12th August 1914 and arrived in France on the 16th. His occupation appears to be hay driver (source: Army Form Z 22) with the 1st Cavalry Division Supply Column (57 and 58 M.T. Companies A.S.C.) (source: Army Form B 108 marked disembarked n r 1 Cav D S.C. which was an abbreviation for nominal roll 1st Cavalry Division Supply Column). He stated he was once concussed when starting his lorry. It seems certain he drove lorries in France and not buses as the Cavalry would not have needed buses which were used for infantry. On 24th December 1915 he extended his special reserve service to continue for the duration of the war and was re-engaged with the A.S.C. number 420460. He returned to the U.K. on 3rd March 1916 on Hospital Ship St George suffering from debility. He was medically down-graded and joined Grove Park base depot on 30th June 1916 and remained as a lance corporal in No 1 Reserve Mechanical Transport Company A.S.C.. in charge of fatigues at the mechanical transport Recruits and Training Depot A.S.C. at Grove Park, London, until 17th May 1918 when he was transferred to the loaders and packers section. He was transferred to the reserve on 5th July 1919. He qualified for the 1914 Star with dated clasp, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. See:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Ian Gotts
Date: Monday 7th September 2015 at 6:52 PM

Hi Alan,
Thanks very much for this extra information. That's very useful to know where he was. I have his service record, from Ancestry, but haven't spotted either of the forms you mention: (Z22- Statement as to Disability and B108 Regular Army Certificate of Service) where did you find them?

So even though he was in support, he was involved in the earliest battles of the War, and the retreat from Mons was probably a very difficult time. And he was serving until 3 March 1916, when he was repatriated with pneumonia. That resulted in a long period in hospital, during which he contracted severe gastritis, for which he received the disability award. As you say he was then relocated into a different unit.

The unfortunate thing is that having lived through WW1 he was listed as a civilian death in WW2 on 11 November 1944 at Shooters Hill in London, just south of Woolwich.

Thanks very much for the information.
Posted by: Norman {Email left}
Location: Ashington Northumberland
Date: Saturday 5th September 2015 at 7:07 PM
My father Albert Hadland served in the Army Service Corps regimental number T/1/2042 in World War 1. At sometime after serving at Gallipoli he was transfered inthe Northumberland Fusiliers regimental number 55718. I know he served in France and Italy with the 10th. or.11th. Battalion but I have have been unable to obtain which one nor have I been able to obtain the date of his transfer into the N.F,
I wonder if you could help please
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 5th September 2015 at 10:47 PM

Dear Norman,
No individual service record has survived for Albert Hadland so it is not possible to state his military service precisely. His Army Service Corps (A.S.C.) regimental number prefix T/1 indicated he enlisted in the horse transport (T) section of the A.S.C. rather than the mechanical transport or supply sections. The figure 1 indicated he enlisted in the 1st New Army called for by Lord Kitchener on 11th August 1914 and fully recruited as the First Hundred Thousand within a fortnight. The date of his arrival in the Dardanelles theatre was shown on his medal index-card as 27th May 1915, with the A.S.C.. At that time there were only two British Divisions on Gallipoli, the 29th and the 42nd, so it is possible he served in the A.S.C. within those divisions. See:
It is possible he arrived at Gallipoli as part of a draft of reinforcements as opposed to a complete A.S.C. company arriving on that date. The route to the Dardanelles was via the Mediterranean, perhaps coaling at Malta; then to Alexandria, Egypt, and then to Mudros, a military port on the island of Lemnos. From Mudros it was a short voyage of 59 nautical miles (68 miles or 110 kilometres) Eastwards in the Aegean Sea to the beaches of Gallipoli.
His date of arrival was not necessarily the date he stepped foot on the peninsula, as it could have been recorded in Alexandria stepping off a British ship or on his arrival at Lemnos. However, all the other British Divisions that sailed for Gallipoli left England in June or later, so wherever Albert Hadland was in the Mediterranean or Aegean on the 27th May 1915 appears to have placed him with reinforcements for the 29th or 42nd Divisions who were already on the Peninsula.
The Army medal rolls recorded he served in the A.S.C. and then the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers, so that makes it clear it was the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers who went to Italy from France in November 1917 and remained there with 23rd Division. It is not possible to say when Private Hadland transferred to the Northumberland Fusiliers but it would probably have been in 1916. Gallipoli was abandoned by January 6th 1916. Wounded men were often transferred to another unit once they had recovered, so had he been wounded that might have caused the transfer. The war diary for the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers covering their time in Italy has not been digitized yet and is available only at The National Archives at Kew. However, the earlier diary is available to download for a small charge of GBP 3.30. See:
For a brief outline of the 23rd Division at war see:
Albert Hadland remained with the 11th Northumberland Fusiliers and survived the war. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Norman Hadland
Date: Sunday 6th September 2015 at 6:25 PM

Thank you very much. I now know for sure it was 11th. Batt. NF,

Your work is much appreciated.


The forum has 313 pages containing 3128 messages
-10   Prev Page   37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45   Next Page   10+

Don't forget to Save this page to your FAVORITES.