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Posted by: Tess
Location: Newton Abbot
Date: Saturday 11th January 2014 at 4:31 PM
Hi Alan,
Thank you for your previous assistance.
I have moved my research for Newton Abbot Museum onto Seale-Hayne, nr. Newton Abbot, where soldiers were treated for shell-shock by Dr Hurst.
I have seen the 1917 Pathe News reel which has images of the treatment the soldiers underwent, and this has some names attached.
Against all odds, I have found, Pte. Philip Ross Smith's pension and medal record - G/40040, Queen's Royal West Surrey, but wondered if you knew of a source for others treated at Netley and Seale-Hayne. They all appear to have surnames like King, Williams, Richards!
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 11th January 2014 at 10:38 PM

Dear Tess,
Records of the military hospitals in the UK during the First World War have not survived, although where a military hospital also existed as a civilian hospital after the war some admission and discharge records might have survived at the hospitals themselves; in record offices; the special collections of universities or the Wellcome Library. Until the creation of the National Health Service in 1948, patients' records were kept by doctors or hospitals with no centralisation. Because of the specialised nature of the medical work at Seale-Hayne College while it was a military hospital there may be a few records held in local archives, but it would be necessary to search the individual local catalogues or the A2A (Access to Archives) database. Some individual doctors kept their own records and disposed of them after the war although some could remain in private hands.
Seale-Hayne was created as an agricultural college and as such its records may have been archived by the Department of Education; the Ministry of Agriculture; Plymouth Polytechnic (Polytechnic South West) which is now Plymouth University, or the local authorities. The college was operated as an independent charity endowed by Charles Seale-Hayne.
There is no centralised repository for medical records of those treated at Seale-Hayne or Netley. Netley was the Royal Victoria Hospital at Southampton, known as Netley Hospital from the locality. The types of record that may have been archived are admission and discharge books; clinical records and hospital records. In general very few clinical records have been kept and those that have survived are closed for 100 years. Seale-Hayne was used as a 350-bed military hospital for neurasthenic treatment for soldiers (not officers) under Major Arthur Hurst MB B.Ch (Oxon) RAMC from April 1918 until late 1919. Netley was a vast hospital that had a number of wards for neurasthenic treatment. Their general records are held by the RAMC Muniment Collection which is housed at the Wellcome Library, but there are scant clinical records for the tens of thousands of men that were treated there between 1863 and 1978. See:
The Wellcome Library also has some biographical details of Sir Arthur Frederick Hurst and the post-war "medical pilgrims". See:
Dr Hurst rose to Lieutenant-Colonel in rank and after the war, he moved to London where he worked at Guy's Hospital.
His work at Seale-Hayne was filmed and written about in medical journals. A useful dissertation about Dr Hurst's work and Seale-Hayne military hospital by Edgar Jones, of King's College London Institute of Psychiatry, has been published in "The Journal of the History of Medicine and Applied Sciences". See:
Dr Hurst's work was sponsored by the Medical Research Committee which is now the Medical Research Council. There was no Ministry of Health until 1919.

The sixteen soldiers named in the film were: Pte Read, (aged 32); Cpl Anderson, (aged 27); Pte Percy Meek, (aged 23) Pte Ross Smith, (aged 35); Pte Preston, (aged 19); Pte King, (aged 27); Pte Sandall, (aged 19); Pte Pudmore; Pte Willis; Sgt Peters; Pte Williams; Sgt Bissett; Pte Ashley; Pte Richards; Pte Bradshaw and Pte Eaglefield. Unfortunately, without further details it would not be possible to identify each of the sixteen positively and even if medical records had survived they would be closed to public access until 2018. A complete list of all soldiers treated at Netley and Seale-Hayne would be prohibitively large to consider; 50,000 patients were treated at Netley Hospital during the war.
Hospital records usually remain with the hospital or the Health Authority. In the case of Seale-Hayne, any archives might be in the control of Plymouth University or the Devon record offices. Devon record office has one document that might be of interest. It is a copy of an article about the hospital in the monthly "The War Pensions Gazette", dated September 1918 contained in "113 - Folder: newspaper cuttings, official circulars etc., concerning progress of war and care of wounded and dependants of servicemen" (Devon Record Office Catalogue ref: 1262M/0/O/LD/113/67).
The National Archives catalogue has two items from the time: "Seale-Hayne College Devon, Occupation by War Office as a military hospital" in MAF 33/47 (1917-1919) and "Newton Abbott, Seale Hayne (Agricultural and Technical College) General 1916-1920" in ED 37/408.
There is a small selection of First World War medical records in Catalogue series MH106, but it is only a 2 per-cent sample selected to illustrate the range of diseases and treatments from the war. It lists only ten UK War Hospitals and does not list Seale-Hayne College.
There are two internet pages relating to former patients of Seale-Hayne. One is for the painter Rupert Lee at:
And the other for a soldier named Alfred Hutchinson, who walked out of the gates and wasn't seen again. It is:

Searches for clinical records will generally become frustrated. However, medical admissions and discharges have survived in many archives. I once found in a university library collection a workhouse infirmary admissions book dating from 1920 that I was looking for, so it is always worth searching local catalogues online or sending an e-mail to an archivist.
Sir Arthur Frederick Hurst, of Oxford, died in August 1944.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Tess
Date: Wednesday 11th June 2014 at 10:31 PM

I appear to have omitted replying and thanking you for your assistance on this query. Very remiss of me - Sorry.

Thank you for your help over this. It is frustrating, but perhaps in 2018 all will be revealed. I will also pass your thorough response to the Archivist at Seale Hayne, now owned by the Dame Hannah Rogers Trust, as they too are seeking information on the patients etc.
Kind regards
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 11th June 2014 at 10:43 PM

Dear Tess,
No problem.
Posted by: Cynthia Holmes {Email left}
Location: North Porth Fl Usa
Date: Thursday 9th January 2014 at 5:39 PM

I am resending a new message so that I may leave my email as I did not do so yesterday . . . Thank you for your help and quick response with Albert Victor Folland and Henry Philip Folland. It appears that there is someone else (Becca) also looking for info on Albert. Could you please pass my contact info on to her? I have been trying for some time to locate someone else who has more info or who may know any other living family members. Thanks again!
Posted by: Dee {Email left}
Location: Kirkella E Yorkshire
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 10:16 PM
Not sure if you can help Alan, but I am trying to trace records for A William Day born Stockton on Tees 1776 & he married a Margaret Curton in 1799 when he was in the militia. His wife she was receiving maintenance from the Militia but she died 1805. I cannot find any Militia records for him on findmypast (or anywhere else for that matter) & wonder if you could point me in any direction where I could perhaps get hold of any records for him. He possibly had connections with whitby, Yorkshire.

Greatly appreciated for any help.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 11:42 PM

Dear Dee,
You would need to consult any surviving Militia muster rolls by visiting the relevant county record office for the area in which he served or search the surviving national Army records by visiting The National Archives at Kew. Militia lists that are available are listed in "Militia Lists and Musters, 1757-1876: A Directory of Holdings" by Jeremy S W Gibson, and Mervyn Medlycott, published in 2001, or you can search on Access to Archives at
A William Day was baptised at St Thomas, Stockton-on-Tees, on 22 December 1776. When he applied for a marriage license on 6 March 1799 William Day was described as a soldier in the Lancashire Regiment. That may have been Militia service which was often temporary. You should not discount the service record for William Day born Preston, Yorkshire, (which was Preston-on-Tees, adjacent to Stockton) who had served previously in the 2nd (The Queen's Royal) Regiment of Foot for two years and the 65th (2nd Yorkshire, North Riding) Regiment of Foot. His record is erroneously indexed as "Coldstream Guards" on
The National Archives also holds Pension admission books, arranged by year of claim. They provide name, rank, age, total service, rate of pension, foreign service/stations, character report, place of birth, and trade. These details can be helpful in identifying a soldier. The books for disability awards between 1715 and 1882 are in WO 116.
When a soldier enlisted he was "attested" i.e. he swore an oath of allegiance to serve the Crown. Attestation papers recorded parish of birth, stated age and regiment as well as former trade or occupation. Surviving attestation papers are filed with the soldier's pension papers.
Muster Rolls and Pay Lists are held at the National Archives in two series covering the periods 1730-1878 and 1878-1898. Army musters were taken at regular periods of a month or three months and identified the men of a regiment with additional notes about those who had been in hospital or discharged or enlisted. It is possible to trace a man back through the rolls. Once found, it should be possible to identify the man's enlistment, locations during his term of service and his discharge.
The Army did not photograph soldiers for identification purposes until the mid-20th Century. Instead the Army kept detailed descriptions of soldiers who could then be identified if they deserted. The Description Books are held at the National Archives in WO 25/266 688. They give a description of each soldier, his age, place of birth, trade and service. They have to be searched by regiment. The records date from 1756 to 1900, but for most regiments there are volumes only for the first half of the nineteenth century.
The monthly returns of the Army are held at the National Archives in WO17 (1759 - 1865) and WO 73 (from 1859). These list regiments and the locations at which they were stationed.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Dee
Date: Thursday 9th January 2014 at 9:18 AM

Dear Alan, Thankyou so much for your very quick reply. Very much appreciated and I will follow up your advice.

Regards Denise
Posted by: Jeani Weani
Location: Lancs
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 8:52 PM
Hi, this is my first message , I have been researching my great uncle Patrick Tarmey for quite a while, I have had some success using the Ancestry site for some information but the one thing I cannot find is a photograph of Patrick and wonder if you can help me in any way.
Patrick Tarmey 1st joined the 7th East Lancs Regt No.14454 aged 25 yrs, but was discharged after 28 days on the 15/10/14 on medical grounds.
He was also No. 206291 Pioneer R.E. 10th Royal Engineers sapper railway operations Div.
No.37409 Welsh Regiment private
No.57091 or 57094 Royal Welsh Fusiliers
Patrick died of his wounds 2nd December 1916 aged 28 years.
He is buried in Janval cemetery Dieppe.
I would be most grateful if you can help me locate a photograph of Patrick.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 11:45 PM

Dear Jean,
The Army did not take photographs of soldiers for formal or identification purposes in the First World War so any photograph that might have been taken would have been arranged privately with a High Street photographer, perhaps to mark the issuing of uniform to a recruit, or impeding departure overseas. The Welsh Regiment regimental museum might have group photographs of recruits in training in the UK in 1915 but such group photographs were rarely annotated with the mens' names, so you would have to visit the museum and be able to recognise your ancestor by his image. Any private photograph would remain with the man's family, so making contact with relatives might be productive. The local newspaper for the town in which he lived, or staff magazines for the company by whom he was employed, might have published an obituary, some of which were accompanied by a portrait photograph loaned by the family at the time.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Jeani Weani
Date: Thursday 9th January 2014 at 11:52 AM

Dear Alan

Thankyou so much for your speedy reply with your suggestions for finding a photograph of my great uncle Patrick Tarmey.

Posted by: Bella
Location: Esher
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 8:12 PM
Dear Alan,

I would like to take this opportunity of thanking you for all your help over time and may I wish you and yours a very happy and peaceful new year.

Kind regards.

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 8:32 PM

Dear Bella,
Thank you. A Happy and peaceful New Year to you.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Cynthia Holmes
Location: North Porth Fl Usa
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 3:53 PM
Dear Alan,

I am trying to clarify something you said to someone else in a prior entry (Sat, 29th Dec. 2012 at 7:42pm) regarding my Grandfather, Albert Victor Folland who was born in Aston, Birmingham, England on or about the 14th of May 1899. You indicate that there are two Albert Folland's. I am interested in the one that came over in June 1910 under the Home Children scheme and spent some time at the Middlemore Home at Fairview Station, Halifax NS. In the 1911 census of Canada he was shown as a domestic servant at Brighton New Brunswick, aged 12. In November 1915 he stated his May birthday had been in 1897 (to make him appear to be18) and enlisted in the Canadian Expeditionary Force. He survived the war, married a Margaret and moved from Canada to America. In the 1950s he was still crossing the Atlantic by ship and by aeroplane. He died in August 1980 at Grand Rapids, Kent, Michigan.

Can you clarify if he is the brother of Harry Folland (often known as Henry at home)? And is this the same Henry Folland the aircraft engineer and designer? I was always told that my Grandfather was adopted?

I appreciate your help and time with this clarification.

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 7:23 PM

Dear Cynthia,
It would be necessary to order the relevant birth certificates to provide documentary evidence for Albert's parents and that Albert Folland's brother was Harry or Henry Philip Folland. However, there is compelling evidence that this was the case. Henry Philip Folland was born in Cambridge in 1889, the son of Frederick and Mary Folland. The 1891 Census of England recorded the family at 2, King Street, Holy Trinity, Cambridge. Mary had been born about 1862 at Well, Shropshire. In the 1901 Census a Mary Folland, married, born about 1863 at Wellington, Shropshire, was recorded at 83 Jenkins Street, Aston, Birmingham, with her children including Edith, Harry and Albert.
In the 1911 Census, Henry Philip Folland was recorded as an engineering designer, living as a boarder at an address in Coventry.
The attestation form for Albert enlisting in the Canadian army stated that his next of kin was his sister Edith, which name had been deleted and replaced with his brother Harry who had an address in Camberley, Hampshire in 1915.
The biography of Henry Philip Folland stated he was employed as a designer for the Daimler company from 1908. The Daimler Motor Company established its manufacturing base at Coventry. Henry was in Coventry in 1911. His biography stated he moved in 1912 to The Royal Aircraft Factory at Farnborough, Hampshire, where he worked in the First World War. Farnborough is very close to Camberley, where he was recorded in 1915.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Jonboy {Email left}
Location: Harlow
Date: Tuesday 7th January 2014 at 5:35 PM
Hi Alan
Hope all is well with you my son Luke would like to wish you a Happy New Year and thanks you for the help you gave him last year (he still cherishes that book you sent him) he wont even lend it out to any of his school mates he made his Teacher handle it with care when he took it to School lol. Anyway can you help me on a Albert Edward Crowne aged 32 he lived at 57 Great Chart Street in London somewhere as far as I can make out he was in the Army Service Corps Reg No 065429 I think this was round about 1915/16. Any info would be a great help.
Kind Regards

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 7th January 2014 at 9:14 PM

Dear Jonboy,
On the 1863 map of London, Great Chart Street, Hoxton, (not the one in Battersea) was just off East Road with its junction with City Road at Moorfields Eye Hospital. Great Chart Street ran East-West from East Road to Pitfield Street around Aske Gardens and the Haberdashers Alms Houses. It is on Google maps as "Chart Street, Hoxton" and is North of Old Street tube station.
Albert Edward Crowne was a carman for the greengrocers Bennett and Hawes of 28 and 29 Crispin Street, Spitalfields Market. He was, in their words, capable of managing two horses. He volunteered at City Road Barracks, Finsbury, on March 1st 1915, aged 32 and joined the Army Service Corps as a horse-driver at Aldershot with No 1 Company ASC. He trained at Aldershot, Witney and Fareham and went to France on 5th March 1916 where he had been posted as a horse driver to the 133rd Field Ambulance RAMC which served with the newly raised 39th Division. See:
He appears to spent most of his time horse driving with 133 Field Ambulance although he was temporarily with the 39th Divisional Train for three weeks in June `1918 when the 39th Division was reduced to cadre strength and was employed giving courses of instruction for newly arrived American troops, beginning with units of the 77th American Division in the hamlet of Wolphus at Zouafques (Pas-de-Calais).
After the Armistice in November 1918 he was granted leave to the UK, passing through No 1 Army Horse Transport Depot. On his return to France just before Christmas 1918 he was posted to the 38th Divisional Train and served with 330 Company ASC, which was part of that train. A Divisional Train transported the baggage of the units of the division and was the final stage of bringing supplies to the men at the front. The ASC horse companies of the divisional train carried everything except ammunition which was carried by the ammunition column. Three of the four ASC companies in each "train" carried baggage and supplies for one infantry brigade and a field ambulance RAMC. A fourth company carried out the same functions for the artillery, Engineers and other units.
Albert was returned to the UK on 22nd June 1919 and was discharged from the service on 21 July 1919. Albert Crowne qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
Happy New Year to you and Luke. His Field Service Pocket Book will be 100 years old this year.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Kez
Location: Sydney Australia
Date: Sunday 5th January 2014 at 5:32 AM
Can you help please with any information regarding a James Kingaby, born 1794. I believe he was in the 7th Foot Regiment and came to NSW about 1825
Thank you for your time Cheers kez
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Sunday 5th January 2014 at 1:27 PM

Dear Kez
A James Kingaby was born May 23rd 1794 at the Holborn Lying-In Hospital, London, and baptised on May 29th 1794, the son of James and Ann Kingaby.
A brief pension record for James Kingaby is held at the UK National Archives in Catalogue series WO 97. Images are available (charges apply) from the website. I am not able to transcribe information from that website because of copyright restrictions.
A Jas Kingaby arrived in New South Wales in 1826 on the ship "Orpheus". The 'Sydney Gazette & The New South Wales Advertiser' for September 16th 1826 reported: "On Wednesday evening arrived from London, the ship "Orpheus", Captain Duff. She left England the 8th of May, and Rio de Janeiro the 22nd of June, arriving 16 September 1826. By this conveyance have arrived 213 men, woman and children of the New South Wales Veterans Corps."
The Veterans Corps for New South Wales and Tasmania recruited three companies in England during 1826 from former soldiers of the King. See:
A Jas Kingaby of New South Wales had been discharged from the 7th Regiment of Foot (The Royal Fusiliers) in 1825 after serving 14 and a half years (National Archives; Regimental Registers of Pensioners WO120/55 via The 7th had fought in the Peninsular War at Albuera in 1811. "Lord Wellington has also sent two divisions of his army, the 3rd and 7th, that way. Intelligence is just received that the battle is fought, and we are again victorious. The affair took place at Albuhera, on the 16th: Soult attacked, and was defeated with immense loss on both sides." ("The Times", 29 May 1811). The 7th Regiment gained battle honours at Talavera (1809), Busaco (1810), Albuera (1811), the siege of Badajos (1811), the siege of Ciudad Rodrigo (1812), Salamanca (1812), Vittoria (1813), Roncesvalles (1813), San Sebastien (1813), Orthes (1814) and Toulouse (1814). At the end of the Peninsular War the 7th was sent to capture New Orleans, during the North American "War of 1812" (1812-1815) where the British were defeated. See:
The 7th then returned to Europe just after the Battle of Waterloo in Belgium in 1815 and settled back in England later the same year.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Kez
Date: Tuesday 7th January 2014 at 9:00 PM

Alan, many thanks for the information you have sent, I appreciate it greatly!
To you and yours have a wonderful new year!
Cheers Kez
Posted by: Gordon Mackett {Email left}
Location: Crowthorne
Date: Saturday 4th January 2014 at 4:10 PM
I have unfortunately deleted your reply concerning my grandfather Robert Matchett, and hope that you
could resend all the details so that I can continue with my research.
Your kind assistance would be greatly appreciated.


Gordon Mackett
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 4th January 2014 at 4:32 PM

Dear Gordon,
Here is a re-posting of the reply:
Robert Matchett's service record is unclear as to when he served with particular batteries of the Royal Garrison Artillery, so it is not possible to state his wartime service with certainty. He enlisted in the Royal Field Artillery at Glasgow on 4th September 1914 and once trained he was transferred to the Royal Garrison Artillery and was posted overseas to France on 18th December 1915 where he remained in a base depot (probably the RGA Base Depot at Harfluer, Le Havre) until January 12th 1916. He had qualified for the 1914-15 Star for service in a theatre of war before December 31st 1915, by 13 days, while in a base depot. Robert appears to have been posted to 59 Siege Battery RGA on 19th February 1916. He then joined 110 Heavy Battery RGA under First Army in October 1916. On 9th January 1917 he was again posted, probably to the 1st Lancashire Heavy Battery RGA which served initially under XXIX Heavy Artillery Brigade RGA. Robert was returned to the UK on 12th December 1917 and was discharged on 1st May 1918, aged 29. He qualified for a silver War Badge for being discharged early through wounds or sickness. His character was "very good". As artillery locations are very exacting to locate it would be necessary to study the war diaries of each battery at the UK National Archives at Kew, to establish their activities in each time period.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Shelley {Email left}
Location: South Africa
Date: Friday 3rd January 2014 at 9:11 PM
Hi Alan, my grandpa left Cape Town for the front and I think was in 1st SA Regiment, Arthur Bagnall (a nr 361 written on the troopship postcard), Lewis gunner, in Arras, Marrieres and 3rd Ypres. I don't know the date he entered. I think he got 3 medals and Sir Herbert Stanley gave him one in about 1927 or 1937 in Rhodesia too. He was an excellent shot, later in King Hill 1937 competition and Bisley. In May 1918 he convalesced in Blytheswood Aux Mil. Hospital, West Byfleet, Kent. I would like to know when he entered the war, what medals he got, and what division he was in etc and when he left. He was born at turn of Century.
Thank you
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 4th January 2014 at 11:49 AM

Dear Shelley,
Any request for information about South African military personnel should be addressed in writing to the Documentation Centre, SA National Defence Force, Private Bag X289, Pretoria 0001.
The 1st South African Infantry Regiment served with 1st Infantry Brigade (South Africa). For a general history see:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Bella Esher
Date: Monday 6th January 2014 at 9:04 PM

Dear Shelley,

Pardon the intrusion but I very often read Alan's website which I find absolutely fascinating. Imagine my surprise when on reading your message regarding your Grandfather convalesing at a house called Blytheswood in Surrey (not Kent). Blytheswood was a very large house (I MAY have photograph but not 100% sure) one of several that were built around 1910 by the same builder of the house I lived in in the 80's. It was very rural in the 1900's but there are several still standing. Unfortunately, Blytheswood was demolished in the 60's I think but I did a lot of research on the Builder and the area. If you would like me to email you some photographs that I have, it would be my pleasure.
It helps build a profile.
Look forward to hearing from you,

Regards, Bella
Reply from: Shelley
Date: Monday 6th January 2014 at 10:09 PM

Hi Bella, very interesting.
I found a site with a picture of current Blytheswood, West Byfleet in it.
And I have a photograph too, of the patients and staff posing outside the house for the photograph in 1918.
Send me your e-mail then.
The details I got are:
Blythswood Auxiliary Hospital
Elmstead Road, West Byfleet, Kent KT14 6JB
Medical dates: 1915 - 1918
Medical character: Convalescent (military)
The Blythswood Auxiliary Hospital opened in November 1915 in a house lent by Mr John H. Robinson.
The Hospital had 45 beds and was affiliated with the South African Military Hospital in Richmond. The nursing staff consisted of a Matron, a masseuse and 13 part-time members of the local Voluntary Aid Detachment.
Patients received general treatment. In the summer the accommodation was increased when open air beds were set up in the grounds.
The Hospital closed on 31st December 1918.
Present status (June 2011)
The building is now a private residence.
References (Author unstated) 1917 Red Cross work in Surrey during 1917. British Red Cross Society Surrey Branch, 5th Annual Report. (Author unstated) 1920 Red Cross work in Surrey 1918-1919. British Red Cross Society Surrey Branch.
Regards, Shelley
Reply from: Bella Esher
Date: Tuesday 7th January 2014 at 12:57 AM

Dear Shelley,

Thanks for all information.

It would appear that your Blythswood is different to mine which I find slightly odd. John Robinson was the builder of that particular area and the Blythswood I have (which WAS demolished) is definitely in the Old Woking Road, West Byfleet which Elmstead Road is just off of. I checked the website for Military Hospitals WW1 and the photograph that came up is completely different. In fact I have the original booklet with illustration and details of the 5 houses built, namely, Blythswood, Old Woking Road,Feeringberry, Oakcroft Road. Haslemere, Oakcroft Road,(now a carehome) Kenilworth, Elmstead Road,and Lulworth, Elmstead Road, each one leading off one another. Ifind it strange that two houses in such close proximity should have the same name.

Well it was worth the messaging.

Kind regards.


I was given to understand that John Robinson was of the Robinson,s Barley Water, but cannot confirm that.
Reply from: Shelley
Date: Tuesday 7th January 2014 at 12:08 PM

Hi Bella, the web says John Robinson lent it to war effort.
Maybe it was rebuilt? Can you send me an email address or Whatsapp number so I can send my pic? Thanks Shelley
Reply from: Bella
Date: Wednesday 8th January 2014 at 8:08 PM

Dear Shelley,

Thank you for your note and for offering to email your picture of staff at Blytheswood.

My email is: (bella at jorephani dot com)

Thank you and may I take this opportunity of wishing you a Happy New Year.

Regards, Bella
Reply from: Denise
Date: Thursday 20th February 2014 at 5:34 PM


Just stumbled across this forum while researching the Blytheswood Military Hospital because my grandfather was in there at some point during WW1. He sent two postcards home to his parents, one a picture of the house itself and one a picture of the Old Woking Road, West Byfleet showing the house. If either of you would like a copy of these I'll happily scan and email them. I'm trying to piece together what my grandfather did in the war - do either of you know whether there are any hospital records in existence for Blytheswood?

Reply from: Shelley
Date: Thursday 20th February 2014 at 6:03 PM

Hi Denise, Blytheswood was a South African auxiliary hospital connected to Richmond hospital, for SA troops. I don't know about records. You may send a copy, and I can return one too. shelleyvanacker at gmail dot com
Thanks, Shelley
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 20th February 2014 at 6:44 PM

Dear Denise,
Medical records have rarely survived from such hospitals and those that may have would be closed for 100 years from their creation. The Blythswood Military Hospital was staffed by the nurses of the Voluntary Aid Detachment which were Red Cross or St John Ambulance. The Red Cross archives might have some further details:
See also:
Kind regards,
Reply from: Denise
Date: Thursday 27th February 2014 at 5:28 PM

Dear Shelley and Alan,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you both, I was hijacked by domestic crises!

Shelley, I've sent you the scans but Blytheswood couldn't have been just for South African troops as my grandad was a Londoner. Or maybe we're talking about two different uses at different dates? The postcards don't have a date on them so they're no help.

Alan, many thanks for these suggestions, I'll check them out and report back if I get any joy.

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