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Posted by: John {No contact email}
Location: Cambridgeshire
Date: Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 9:29 AM
Hello Alan
I am making contribution's to a W.W.1 project for the men Croydon-cum-Clopton Cambs
who died in the Great War, there are 15 names on the memorial which includes 4 of our
family, the project is being displayed in the village church. I am hoping that you would
help me with one of two brothers who died in the war.
He is Private 54420 James Ingrey West Riding Regiment, he died on 9th September 1918.
His brother Harry 3/8232 Suffolk Rgt also died, I have a little information regarding Harry
but anything you could find would be very much appreciated thank-you
yours sincerely
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 6:30 PM

Dear John,
James Ingrey was also recorded as James John Ingery. He was conscripted, aged 18, on 30th August 1917 when he attested and was placed on the reserve. He was a butcher; with a scar on his right thumb; he was 5ft 7ins tall. He was called-up on 1st October 1917 at Bedford and joined the 27th Training Reserve Battalion for basic training at Clipstone Camp, Mansfield, on 2nd October 1917. On 11th October 1917 he suffered acute appendicitis and was admitted to Clipstone Military Hospital to have his appendix removed. He resumed training on 16th November 1917. On 23rd January 1918 at Rugeley Camp, Cannock Chase, he suffered pneumonia and was in hospital at the Rugeley Military Hospital until 8th February 1918. On 7th May 1918 James was transferred to the 4th Reserve Battalion of the Duke of Wellingtons West Riding Regiment at Brocton Camp, adjacent to Rugeley Camp. The 4th Reserve Battalion moved to Bromeswell near Woodridge, Suffolk, in July 1918.
On 17th August 1918 James was posted to the B.E.F. in France and he sailed from Folkestone to Boulogne before going to an Infantry Base Depot on the French coast. Ten days later he joined the 9th Battalion Duke of Wellingtons West Riding Regiment in the field on 27th August 1918. The Battalion was engaged in the Battle of Bapaume (21 August to 3rd September). They then fought in the battles for the Hindenburg Line at Havrincourt on 7th September 1918 and Epehy on 18th September 1918. James was shot in the chest at Epehy and died of wounds at No. 3 Casualty Clearing Station on 19th September 1918. He was buried at Thilloy Road Cemetery, Beaulencourt. The cemetery was begun early in September 1918, and used during the latter part of the month and the early part of October by the 3rd, 4th and 43rd Casualty Clearing Stations. James qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. His next-of-kin was his sister, Mary Jane, of 33 Croydon Road, Royston, Herts.. He has served 354 days of which 23 days were at the Front.
Harry Albert Ingrey was a Lance-corporal in the Special Reserve of the Suffolk Regiment from 1911. The Special Reserve involved part-time service over a period of six years with responsibility to be called-up in the event of a national emergency. The men initially had six months full-time training, with the same pay as a regular soldier, followed by three or four weeks training each year afterwards. The Special Reservists belonged to the 3rd Battalion Suffolk Regiment, at Bury St Edmunds. Harry Ingrey was recorded in the 1911 England census as a 17-year-old private soldier in the Special Reserve of the 3rd Battalion Suffolk Regiment, so he was probably undergoing his initial training in April 1911 when the census was taken. He would have been mobilized at the outbreak of war with the 3rd Battalion Suffolk Regiment which moved to Felixstowe on 9th August 1914. Lance-corporal Ingrey disembarked in France on 14th April 1915 where he would have been part of a draft of reinforcements to the 1st Battalion Suffolk Regiment which had been in France since January 1915 with the 84th Infantry Brigade in the 28th Division, having returned from India. Harry Ingrey was killed in action on April 24th 1915, ten days after he arrived in France, when the 28th Division was engaged in the Second Battle of Ypres which was fought from 22nd April to 25th May 1915. Harry Ingrey has no marked grave and is commemorated on the Menin Gate Memorial at Ypres. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: John Tiller
Date: Wednesday 9th September 2015 at 8:52 PM

Dear Alan
I thank you once again for helping me, the information you have so promptly given me is
more than than I had expected and it is very much appreciated, I hope to visit Croydon
church with your research in the next few days, many thanks once again

Yours sincerely John

Posted by: Ian Gotts {Email left}
Location: St Albans
Date: Sunday 6th September 2015 at 10:19 PM
I am researching someone called John Gotts who worked for the LGOC and went to France between 1914 and 1916.
There is a copy of the form completed by the Old Kent Road Garage confirming his details with his Army service record.
His licence number is 9176 (I think 76 not 46), John Gotts of 15 Marsala Road Lewisham, having had a licence for 1 year 8 months.
His Army Service number was CMT/2635, though it is also shown as ASC (SR)2638.

Although he joined RASC Special Reserve in March 1914, he was sent to France 11/8/1914.

I would assume that since his occupation was especially flagged up on recruitment, it is likely that he drove an omnibus for deploying troops. His service record does not show which company he was with, and so I cannot work out where he would have been deployed.

The page with the details is available here: http://www.gotts.org.uk/extra-files/2BritishArmyWWIServiceRecords1914-1920.jpg , but it is very difficult to make out any company number. It is possible that he didn't drive buses, of course. Can anyone shed any light on which company he would be in and hence where he would have been in France?
Ian Gotts
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 7th September 2015 at 3:17 PM

Dear Ian,
John Gotts enlisted in the Special Reserve Category C Army Service Corps, mechanical transport, with a commitment to be called-up at seven days notice in the event of national emergency. Being the driver of a petrol omnibus he would have been aware of the pre-war subsidized transport scheme whereby the purchase of petrol buses and lorries could be subsidized by government grant if their owners ensured they were manufactured to War Department specifications so they could be requisitioned readily. By 1912 the subsidy was GBP 110 a year. The specifications were that the vehicle had to have four forward gears and one reverse; the gear lever knob had to be round and the brake lever square. Shaft driven transmission was preferred. In 1906 the London General Omnibus Company invested one million pounds converting the horse drawn fleet to petrol driven buses and in 1908 a demonstration was given by the L.G.O.C. and the army Eastern Division whereby 24 omnibuses transported troops from Hounslow to Shoeburyness.
John Gotts was mobilized at Bristol on 6th August 1914 to sail from Avonmouth with elements of the British Expeditionary Force. He sailed on the night of 11th /12th August 1914 and arrived in France on the 16th. His occupation appears to be hay driver (source: Army Form Z 22) with the 1st Cavalry Division Supply Column (57 and 58 M.T. Companies A.S.C.) (source: Army Form B 108 marked disembarked n r 1 Cav D S.C. which was an abbreviation for nominal roll 1st Cavalry Division Supply Column). He stated he was once concussed when starting his lorry. It seems certain he drove lorries in France and not buses as the Cavalry would not have needed buses which were used for infantry. On 24th December 1915 he extended his special reserve service to continue for the duration of the war and was re-engaged with the A.S.C. number 420460. He returned to the U.K. on 3rd March 1916 on Hospital Ship St George suffering from debility. He was medically down-graded and joined Grove Park base depot on 30th June 1916 and remained as a lance corporal in No 1 Reserve Mechanical Transport Company A.S.C.. in charge of fatigues at the mechanical transport Recruits and Training Depot A.S.C. at Grove Park, London, until 17th May 1918 when he was transferred to the loaders and packers section. He was transferred to the reserve on 5th July 1919. He qualified for the 1914 Star with dated clasp, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. See:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Ian Gotts
Date: Monday 7th September 2015 at 6:52 PM

Hi Alan,
Thanks very much for this extra information. That's very useful to know where he was. I have his service record, from Ancestry, but haven't spotted either of the forms you mention: (Z22- Statement as to Disability and B108 Regular Army Certificate of Service) where did you find them?

So even though he was in support, he was involved in the earliest battles of the War, and the retreat from Mons was probably a very difficult time. And he was serving until 3 March 1916, when he was repatriated with pneumonia. That resulted in a long period in hospital, during which he contracted severe gastritis, for which he received the disability award. As you say he was then relocated into a different unit.

The unfortunate thing is that having lived through WW1 he was listed as a civilian death in WW2 on 11 November 1944 at Shooters Hill in London, just south of Woolwich.

Thanks very much for the information.
Posted by: Norman {Email left}
Location: Ashington Northumberland
Date: Saturday 5th September 2015 at 7:07 PM
My father Albert Hadland served in the Army Service Corps regimental number T/1/2042 in World War 1. At sometime after serving at Gallipoli he was transfered inthe Northumberland Fusiliers regimental number 55718. I know he served in France and Italy with the 10th. or.11th. Battalion but I have have been unable to obtain which one nor have I been able to obtain the date of his transfer into the N.F,
I wonder if you could help please
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 5th September 2015 at 10:47 PM

Dear Norman,
No individual service record has survived for Albert Hadland so it is not possible to state his military service precisely. His Army Service Corps (A.S.C.) regimental number prefix T/1 indicated he enlisted in the horse transport (T) section of the A.S.C. rather than the mechanical transport or supply sections. The figure 1 indicated he enlisted in the 1st New Army called for by Lord Kitchener on 11th August 1914 and fully recruited as the First Hundred Thousand within a fortnight. The date of his arrival in the Dardanelles theatre was shown on his medal index-card as 27th May 1915, with the A.S.C.. At that time there were only two British Divisions on Gallipoli, the 29th and the 42nd, so it is possible he served in the A.S.C. within those divisions. See:
It is possible he arrived at Gallipoli as part of a draft of reinforcements as opposed to a complete A.S.C. company arriving on that date. The route to the Dardanelles was via the Mediterranean, perhaps coaling at Malta; then to Alexandria, Egypt, and then to Mudros, a military port on the island of Lemnos. From Mudros it was a short voyage of 59 nautical miles (68 miles or 110 kilometres) Eastwards in the Aegean Sea to the beaches of Gallipoli.
His date of arrival was not necessarily the date he stepped foot on the peninsula, as it could have been recorded in Alexandria stepping off a British ship or on his arrival at Lemnos. However, all the other British Divisions that sailed for Gallipoli left England in June or later, so wherever Albert Hadland was in the Mediterranean or Aegean on the 27th May 1915 appears to have placed him with reinforcements for the 29th or 42nd Divisions who were already on the Peninsula.
The Army medal rolls recorded he served in the A.S.C. and then the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers, so that makes it clear it was the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers who went to Italy from France in November 1917 and remained there with 23rd Division. It is not possible to say when Private Hadland transferred to the Northumberland Fusiliers but it would probably have been in 1916. Gallipoli was abandoned by January 6th 1916. Wounded men were often transferred to another unit once they had recovered, so had he been wounded that might have caused the transfer. The war diary for the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers covering their time in Italy has not been digitized yet and is available only at The National Archives at Kew. However, the earlier diary is available to download for a small charge of GBP 3.30. See:
For a brief outline of the 23rd Division at war see:
Albert Hadland remained with the 11th Northumberland Fusiliers and survived the war. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Norman Hadland
Date: Sunday 6th September 2015 at 6:25 PM

Thank you very much. I now know for sure it was 11th. Batt. NF,

Your work is much appreciated.

Posted by: Steve {Email left}
Location: Liverpool
Date: Saturday 5th September 2015 at 5:10 PM
Looking for any information on William Connor 26640 Lancashire Fusiliers born Liverpool 1892.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 5th September 2015 at 10:48 PM

Dear Steve,
William Connor of 15 Sefton Street, Litherland, joined up on December 9th 1915 under the Derby Scheme for deferred enlistment. The sceheme was the last chance for anyone who had not yet joined up to do so before the introduction of compulsory conscription in 1916. He was placed on the reserve on December 10th 1915 and was called up on 8th February 1916 to join the Lancashire Fusiliers. He trained at Prees Heath Camp with the 22nd Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers 12th May 1916 when he was posted overseas with a draft of reinforcements. On arrival in France the next day he went to No 35 Infantry Base Depot for further training until he was posted to the 17th Battalion Lancashire Fusiliers which was already at the Front with the 104th Infantry Brigade. He joined the Battalion in the field on 13th June 1916. The Brigade fought their first major engagement at The Battle of Bazentin Ridge (14 to 17 July 1916).
On 7th October 1916 Private Connor was wounded in the left thigh and was treated at 106 Field Ambulance for five days before returning to his Battalion on 11th October. He was granted leave to the U.K. from 5th to15th September 1917. A year later he was granted leave to the U.K. from 13th to 27th October 1918. He returned to the U.K. for demobilization on 29th January 1919. At some stage Pte Connor was awarded the Military Medal for bravery in the field. The award of the medal was announced formally on 22nd July 1919, so it would have been earned towards the end of the war. The citation for the medal would be with the family as citations were not published nationally. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. The engagements of the 104th Infantry Brigade in 35th Division can be seen at:
The 17th Battalion War Diary can be downloaded for a fee of GBP 3.30 from the National archives. See:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Steve
Date: Sunday 6th September 2015 at 10:29 AM

Thanks Alan, your knowledge is fantastic. regards Steve.
Posted by: Barbara {Email left}
Location: Bracknell
Date: Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 4:07 PM
Hi. I have no details at all about my grandfather and great uncle in WW1 and would love to have any information at all about either of them. Grandfather was John Henry Jackson, born in Chorlton, Manchester, England in 1895. The one brother I know of is George Jackson and am presuming the same birthplace. I don't know his date of birth. He lost one or both legs. There may have been other brothers. Not much to go on I know but any direction would be appreciated. I presume army.
Cheers, Barbara Lowther, nee Jackson.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 9:37 PM

Dear Barbara,
Unfortunately, there is insufficient information to identify your ancestors in the surviving military records. Few records that contain biographical details have survived, so it is generally necessary to know in which service the man served; his regiment; and his regimental number in the Army (or official number in the Navy). Some surviving individual records state a parish of birth while others state an address at the time of enlistment. It is not possible to identify a John Henry Jackson or a George Jackson from Chorlton among the many men with those names who served in the First World War.
With kind regards,

Posted by: Trevor Purnell {No contact email}
Location: Tillington W Sussex
Date: Wednesday 2nd September 2015 at 12:12 PM

You may remember providing much appreciated information (8/11/2013) on Pte Arthur James Bridger S4/093362 of the Army Service Corps. I am trying to pin him down to a Company or Division within the Corps. He is referred to as a 'Driver' on his MIC, but should his prefix not be HT or MT? S = Supply Branch so might he have been in a Communications Supply Company. Although I am not sure what their function was might he have been a driver with one of these Companies? I found a soldier with the service number S4/093570 who was with a Supply Company. Apologies if this is rather complicated but your expert views would, as always, be appreciated.


Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 2nd September 2015 at 10:55 PM

Dear Trevor,
The Army Service Corps was divided between supply and transport divisions. Supply dealt with supplies and provisioning, such as butchers and bakers. A driver was a horse driver who handled a wagon. The prefix S4 stood for the supply division of the A.S.C. in the 4th New Army raised by Kitchener in November 1914. If a man was allotted a number in the supply division of the A.S.C. he would not have a number prefix applicable to the transport division. It is not possible from his number to identify a specific unit. The 1914-15 Star was awarded to men who served in a theatre of war before December 31st 1915, which indicated they were volunteers and not conscripted men, so a date of enlistment is not inferred.
Since your first enquiry, more army records have been released and the medal rolls now record that Arthur James Bridger went to France with the A.S.C. on 30th August 1915 and was later transferred to the 11th Battalion Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment (Sherwood Foresters) with the regimental number 92115. He was killed in action on 24th October 1918. At that time, the 11th Battalion was in France in the 74th Infantry Brigade with the 25th Division. He was buried at Pommereuil British Cemetery.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Peter {Email left}
Location: Billingham
Date: Tuesday 1st September 2015 at 7:53 PM
Dear Alan can you please try and help me with this man Samual Sherwell Willings from York North Yorkshire not on CWGC or SDGW.
Best Regards Peter.
Reply from: Peter
Date: Wednesday 2nd September 2015 at 4:19 PM

Dear Alan Samual Willings from York North Yorkshire served in the army not much to go on
Regards Peter
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 1:08 PM

Dear Peter,
I am working on this one
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 9:19 PM

Dear Peter,
There was only one family with the name Samuel Shirwell Willing. When written as Willing S.S. it is possible the surname could be interpreted as being Willings. This family came from Plymstock, Plymouth, Devon, and had no direct connection with York. A Samuel Shirwell Willing served in the Royal Navy.
Another family with a Samuel Willing originated in Devon and spent some time in York. This Samuel Willing served in the Army.
The name Shirwell comes from the marriage of Samuel Willing (born 1798) to Ann Shirwell (also Sherwill) in September 1823 in Plymouth. They had a son, Samuel Sherwell Willing, who was born in Plymouth in 1829 at Hooe, Plymstock, Devon. Samuel Sherwell (Sherville was recorded)Willing married Elizabeth Emma Smith at Plymstock in 1854. They had a son, Samuel William Willing who was baptised at Hooe on 22nd January 1864. Samuel Shirwell Willing died in 1869 and his widow, Emma Elizabeth married William H. Demellweek, a fisherman born at Plymouth in 1831. Samuel William Willing married Margaret Mary Maddick at Stoke Damerel, Plymouth, in 1888. Samuel William Willing was a carpenter and the postmaster at Turnchapel, Hooe, Plymouth. Their son, Samuel Sherwill Willing (the second), was born on 22nd February 1899, at Turnchapel, Hooe, Plymouth. Samuel Sherwill Willing joined the Royal Navy aged 13 or 14 in about 1804 and had served three years as a boy in the Navy rated as a boy artificer before attaining the age of 18 on 22nd February 1907 when he was then engaged for 12 years continuous service as a man. After serving on various ships he rose to Engine Room Artificer 3rd Class. On 24th February 1911 he joined the crew of HMS Indefatigable (launched Devonport 1909) when she was commissioned on 24th February 1911 as a new battlecruiser.
On 5th August 1912 Samuel Shirwell Willing married Hilda Gertrude Peckham at St Mary, Chatham, Kent.
At the outbreak of war in 1914, HMS Indefatigable was serving with the 2nd Battlecruiser Squadron in the Mediterranean. On 3rd November 1914 she took part in the bombardment of the Dardanelles fortifications. She underwent a re-fit at Malta and re-joined the 2nd Battlecruiser Squadron early in 1915. HMS Indefatigable was sunk on 31st May 1916 during the Battle of Jutland. Samuel Sherwill Willing was killed in action and is commemorated on the Plymouth Naval Memorial.

Samuel Willing who married Ann Sherwill in 1823 had a son named William Sherwill Willing, born in 1824, who was the elder brother to Samuel born in 1828. William born 1824 was a brother to the great-grandfather of Samuel Sherwill Willing who was killed at Jutland. William, born 1814, became a ship carpenter and married Rebecca Parker on 29th November 1847 in Devon. They lived at White Street, Topsham, St Thomas, Devon for 30 years. Amongst their children was William Sherwill Willing born in 1849 at St Thomas, Devon. He married Sarah Ann Knowles in 1871 at Bristol where the couple lived at Rosemary Street. By 1872 William and Sarah were living at Cononley, near Skipton. There they had a son, William Sherwill Willing, born July to September 1871. William, the father, became a railway signalman for the N.E.R. and was shown in the 1881 and 1891 censuses as living at Criggletsone Station near Wakefield. His son, William Sherwill Willing born 1871, became a teacher and married Mary Ellen Pollitt at Barnsley in 1899. He became a head master at a school in Barnsley. His father, born in 1849, died at his son�s house called Oriens, Huddersfield Road, Barnsley, on March 25th 1903. William, the headmaster, died in 1941 at Cheam, Surrey.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 3rd September 2015 at 11:20 PM


Now, there was a soldier named Samuel Willing who once lived at York and who died in 1918 who might have become confused with Samuel Sherwill Willing of HMS Indefatigable. This man was Samuel Adam Friendship Willing who was baptised on 12th July 1857 at Hooe, Plymouth, the son of William Willing who had married Jane Roberts on 7th April 1850 at St Andrew, Plymouth, the famous city minster that was bombed in the Second World War. William Willing had been baptised in July 1816, the son of John Willing and his wife Nancy Nichols. John Willing was born about 1793 but at that time there were a few baptisms in consecutive years in the Plymouth area so it is uncertain from a distance which couple were his parents and whether he was directly related to the other Willing families from Hooe, Plymouth. Samuel Adam Friendship Willing enlisted in the army at the 35th Brigade Depot at Bodmin in 1877 and served with the Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry in England, serving six years with the colours and six years on the reserve. He was promoted to lance-serjeant in 1881. Samuel Adam F Willing married Sarah Jane Maker in 1882 at Plymouth. On his discharge from the D.C.L.I. he stated his address was H.M. Prison Chester, where he became a warder. The prison was at Chester Castle. The 1891 census recorded he was a warder at a military prison living at Pyecroft Street, Chester. His family was Sarah Jane, wife, 30, born Bodmin; Florence, daughter, 8, born Bodmin; Nellie, daughter, 1, born Chester; Bessie Maker, sister-in-law, single, 21, dressmaker, born Bodmin. His next door neighbour was Henry Wright, also a warder, military prison.
In 1901, Samuel Willing had been promoted and was Chief Warder of H.M. Military Prison employed by the Government. His address was York Castle, Military Prison, Castlegate, York. His family was the same as in 1891 with the addition of a son, Victor Willing, 7, born at Chester. This was Victor May Willing born at Chester in 1893.
On 20th December 1901 a daughter, Rita Annie Maker Willing, was born at Walmgate, York. Walmgate is a street which can be seen from the Castle. In 1911, Samuel, Sarah Jane, and their children Victor and Rita, were living in Gateshead at 112, Brighton Road. Samuel was a foreman electric lamp trimmer and Victor an apprentice electrical engineer.
Samuel Willing volunteered for the army at the outbreak of war and enlisted on 6th October 1914 at Bodmin where he stated he was 57 years old and employed as a groom. He was accepted for service only at Home and remained with the Depot of the Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry which was at Bodmin. He was attached to the 3rd (depot) Battalion D.C.L.I. which was at Bodmin in peacetime, moving to Falmouth in August 1914 and to Freshwater, Isle of Wight from May 1915. He appears to have been employed as a regimental police sergeant (not a military policeman, but a Regimental Policeman appointed by the battalion). He suffered from rheumatism and was over age. He was described as a well-conducted NCO.
His wife, Sarah Jane Willing, died at Bodmin on 20th October 1915, aged 55.
Samuel Willing, then aged 58, married again, to Mary Bolt, a spinster, age 47, at Kendal, Westmoreland on 5th August 1916. Her address on his service record was 12 Robartes Road, Bodmin, during the war.
Samuel remained with the D.C.L.I. until he was medically discharged on 7th March 1918 after suffering rheumatism and being over age. He was described as looking older than he was when he was aged 61. He was awarded the Silver War Badge for being discharged during the war on medical grounds. Samuel Adam Friendship Willing, a gardener, of Sunnyhome, Wattsfield, Kendal, died at Kendal on November 1st 1918 aged 61. The Register of Soldiers Effects stated he died after discharge from the Army.
His youngest daughter, Rita Annie Maker Willing married at Kendal to Alfred G Walker in 1931.
His son, Victor May Willing, became an electrical engineer. He served in the Royal Engineers during the war and returned to electrical engineering in peacetime.
Mary Willing, Samuel�s widow, died in South Westmoreland in July - September 1952, aged 83.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Tracey {Email left}
Location: Hull
Date: Tuesday 1st September 2015 at 7:03 PM
Hello Alan

I was wondering if you would be able to confirm if my Grandpops WW1 army records have been lost/destroyed as through a little museum in Hull I have told they are not available. I am looking for George Tomlinson 32-635. He was in the Northumberland Fusiliers at some point after joining up in Hull and he spent some time in Northern Greece. His parents christian names were Charles and Charlotte. Unfortunately this is all the information I have.

Thank you in advance

Tracey Tomlinson
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 2nd September 2015 at 10:10 PM

Dear Tracey,
No individual service record has survived for George Tomlinson so it is not possible to state his wartime service. The Army medal rolls recorded he first served as 32/635 in the Northumberland Fusiliers which indicated he enlisted in the 32nd Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers which was a reserve and training unit formed at Ripon in 1915 and then based at Harrogate until June 1916 when it moved to Usworth, Washington, Co. Durham. George first went overseas at some date after January 1st 1916 with the Northumberland Fusiliers but it is not recorded to which battalion he was posted after he had finished training. The 32nd Battalion was historically linked to the 17th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers which served in France and Flanders, mainly on railway construction as its original members came from the North Eastern Railway employees. At some stage, it is not known when, John was transferred to the 1st/5th Battalion York and Lancaster Regiment with the regimental number 6132. The move must have been in 1916 because the members of the 1st/5th Battalion Y&L were re-numbered in January 1917 when they were allotted six-digit numbers. They served in France and Flanders. He was transferred again, this time to the 8th Battalion Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry which served in Salonika and Macedonia from November 1915, so he would have formed part of a draft of reinforcements. He ended the war with the 8th Battalion Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Tracey
Date: Monday 7th September 2015 at 9:59 AM

Thank you very much for the information. At least we have some idea of his whereabouts during this time, as my Dad had no idea where he served during the war.

You have written 'John was transferred to the 1st/5th Battalion' do you mean George? Sorry to be pedantic!

Kind regards

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 7th September 2015 at 3:11 PM

Yes it should read George, sorry about that!
Posted by: Jonboy {Email left}
Location: Harlow Essex England
Date: Wednesday 26th August 2015 at 8:05 PM
Hi Alan
Can you look into my Gt Uncles Military experiance please. All i have is Edwin James Cooper lived at 104 Murray Road South Ealing joined RWK Service No 11159 and was a Private, and thats all i have on the person im afraid.

Kind regards
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 27th August 2015 at 6:07 PM

Dear Jonboy,
The Army recorded your great uncle as Edward (not Edwin) James Cooper. He enlisted in The Queens Own (Royal West Kent Regiment) on 15th November 1915 at Tonbridge. He stated his age as 28 years and ten months. He was a gardener who lived with his mother, Mrs M. Cooper at 28 Cranmer Avenue, West Ealing. He joined the 10th Battalion Royal West Kent Regiment at Maidstone and trained with them at Wellington Lines, Aldershot, from January 1916. On 3rd May 1916, the 10th Battalion embarked for France and landed there the next day. They served with the 123rd Infantry Brigade with the 41st Division and fought at The Battle of Flers-Courcelette (15 to 22 September 1916) and The Battle of the Transloy Ridges (1 to 18 October 1916) on the Somme. In 1917 the Division fought at The Battle of Messines (7 to 14th June 1917). It appears Edward Cooper was wounded in June 1917 as he arrived in the UK on 14th June 1917 and was placed on the strength of the Depot of the regiment, on paper at least, from 14th June 1917 until 8th September 1917. Men who were in hospital were placed on the strength of the depot for administrative and pay purposes. He was posted to the 3rd (Reserve) Battalion at Chatham on 8th September 1917, possibly on release from hospital. From Chatham he was again sent to France, this time to serve with the 1st Battalion Royal West Kent Regiment. He returned to France on 17th October 1917 and arrived at the 1st Battalion on 21st October 1917. The 1st Battalion Royal West Kent Regiment served in the 13th Infantry Brigade in the 5th Division. The 1st Battalion fought at the Second Battle of Passchendaele between 26th October and 10th November 1917. On October 25th the 1st Battalion moved forward from Ridge Wood to positions at Bedford House and Stirling Castle in anticipation of an attack to gain high ground on the 26th October. At 4.00 a.m. on the 26th the Battalion moved into its assembly positions under an hour long enemy barrage which began at 4.30 a.m.. The day did not go well and the conditions were very unfavourable, with mud thigh deep in places. A row of pill boxes on the Menin Road had prevented the neighbouring 7th Division from gaining their high ground and men from different units were mixed-up on the battlefield. At one stage it was necessary to establish a post for cleaning weapons and re-issuing them as they were clogged with mud. Then there was an attempt to re-establish the men at least with their own regiments. In the evening at about 5.30 p.m. there were reports the enemy were passing the red building in Gheluvelt. The Battalion called down an artillery barrage but there was no infantry engagement there. The enemy fired a scatter barrage. The 1st Battalion held a line along the Menin Road and after losses of 335 other ranks, they were relieved on the 27th and withdrew to a muddy camp site of tents at Wood Camp.
The service record for Edward Cooper is difficult to read but it was possible to discern the word Missing after his arrival in France in 1917. A search of the archive of the International Committee of the Red Cross verified he was taken as a prisoner of war on 26th October 1917 at Ypres, just five days after arriving at the front. He was held at Meschede PoW Camp, Westphalia, Germany, before arriving at Mannheim PoW Camp in 1918.
He was repatriated to England on 28th November 1918 arriving at Dover on December 3rd 1918. On 8th February 1919 he was posted to the 3rd (Reserve) Battalion which by then had moved to Leysdown on the Isle of Sheppey. His medical grade was then B 2 and he was attached to the Royal Defence Corps (R.D.C.) at St Albans until May 1919. The R.D.C. were employed on protecting vulnerable points and camps. He was demobilized on 4th May from a dispersal unit at Crystal Palace. His service ended on 31st May 1919. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
On 8th January 1919 Edwin J. Cooper had married Florence Sarah Staples at Brentford. She was a widow with a son Leonard who had been born on 27th February 1914 at East Preston, Sussex. The GRO birth index recorded the maiden name of the mother as Bartlett. A James B Staples had married Florence S Bartlett at Brentford, Middlesex in 1911. Rifleman James Baron Staples of the Royal Irish Rifles was killed in action in Belgium on 16th October 1916. Mrs and Mrs Cooper lived at 104 Murray Road, South Ealing. In August 1921 their address was given as 29 Western Road, Ealing Broadway W.5.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Jonboy
Date: Thursday 27th August 2015 at 6:24 PM

Hi Alan
WOW ! thank you so much for all that info fantastic !. Going to buy 20 pounds of raffle tickets at my local British Legion. (You never know i might even win the Car )
Kind regards
Posted by: Charlie Marshall {Email left}
Location: Uk
Date: Wednesday 26th August 2015 at 2:31 PM
Can someone help me define German air service pursuit squadron organization in 1918? The usually wholly reliable 'German Army Handbook of WW1' suggests Jasta (flights) of six aircraft were grouped into squadrons (jagdgeschwader) of four such flights (flights being the 'standard aviation unit'). This is confused further by the jagdstaffelgruppen nomenclature which had four flights) The British stuck to squadrons as being the standard stand alone unit. My 1936 'Richthofen - the red knight of the air' biography glosses over organization, presumably under the impression the contemporary specialist readers would know such detail anyway. I am writing on the battles of 1918 and would be most grateful for any fresh input!

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