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Posted by: Jack Thompson {Email left}
Location: Peterborough
Date: Friday 2nd October 2015 at 7:40 PM
Alan, I have a photo of Mess staff No 1 school of Instruction for Infantry Officers. Brocton Camp June 1918.
I know that my father is not on that photo as he was in france with the Yorks lancs Reg and did not return Home until Sept 1918. I am tracing Dad's past and this photo was amongst his possesions when he died.
Someone in this photo is a link to his past. How can I find the names of those who would have served in Brocton ww1. Hope you can help. Enjoy your forum.
Jack Thompson
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 3rd October 2015 at 11:17 AM

Dear Jack,
Brocton Camp and its neighbour, Rugeley Camp, at Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, could accommodate 40,000 men at any time and probably had about half a million men pass through during the whole of the war. There would be no centralised list of their names. The School of Instruction mess staff would have been drawn from various regiments at different times and the officers who attended the school would have passed through on various courses. It would not be possible to identify the mess staff in the photograph unless their names were on the photograph. There is no reference to No 1 School of Instruction in the National Archives catalogue. The School was administered by the army Western Command which had a headquarters at Chester.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Jack Thompson
Date: Saturday 3rd October 2015 at 4:57 PM

Many thanks for your reply, I thought this was going to be difficult as I had been searching for some time. Time to leave it now as a mystery. Thanks for your help.
Reply from: Richard Pursehouse
Date: Saturday 17th October 2015 at 5:40 AM


I noticed you say you have a photo of the Mess for the No1 School of Instruction at Brocton. Would you be interested in helping our research on the School? I am going through letters of an officer who was there, as the New Zealand Rifle Brigade built the Messines terrain model at Brocton for the School (the remains of which were excavated in 2013) - I can send you articles from magazines such as Britain at War we have done on the excavation. The Model was 40 yards x 40 yards.

The Officer states his monthly mess bill was ã4.50 which he didn't think excessive!

The camp came under Northern Command, although that isn't to say the School didn't come under Western Command for practical purposes

We do have photos of the NZRB men from the school

Richard Pursehouse
(thechaseproject at gmail dot com)
Reply from: Jack Thompson
Date: Saturday 17th October 2015 at 5:46 PM

Richard, not sure how I can help with your project. The photo I have is not complete, it was in my fathers effects when he died. I am certain he is not in it as he was in France at the time but as he kept it there must be someone in it he knew. You are welcome to have a copy if you like. My e-mail address is (jacklynthomp at btinternet dot com)
Regards, Jack Thompson. Peterborough.
Posted by: Mick {No contact email}
Location: Sheffield
Date: Friday 2nd October 2015 at 3:42 PM
Hi Alan,
I dont know if you can help with this, i'm trying to find out if any family members on my dads side served in WW1, the information i have is very limited, the only info i do have is Herbert Bramwell born? he married Elizabeth ? and lived at 171 Bell Hagg Road Sheffield, one of their daughters ( my nan ) was called Edith Ellen Bramwell, born 1911, she married Joshua Hardy ( parents names Herbert Hardy, mother ? ) also born inborn 1911.
i'm afraid that's all the information i have. any help would be appreciated.

Reply from: Mick
Date: Friday 2nd October 2015 at 3:55 PM

Hi Alan
slight error on the Hardy family, parents for Joshua Hardy are Father ? Mother ( nee Stopford )

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 3rd October 2015 at 11:25 AM

Dear Mick,
It is not normally possible to identify army records by name only without knowing some military details also. Fortunately, a rejected pension claim for a Private Herbert Bramwell did have his address. Herbert Bramwell, a cutler of 171, Bell Hagg Road, Sheffield, voluntarily enlisted in the East Yorkshire Regiment on 12th April 1915, aged 29. He had married Mary Elizabeth Roulson on December 25th 1908. After basic training, Herbert was sent to France on 18th August 1915 and there he joined the 1st Battalion East Yorkshire Regiment which had been at the Front since September 1914. He was discharged on 24th March 1919. In 1919 he stated he had five children. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star, The British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
The 1st Battalion East Yorkshire Regiment had fought at The Action at Hooge on July 30th 1915 and Herbert would have been part of a draft of reinforcements as battle casualty replacements. The Battalion then moved to the 64th Infantry Brigade in the 21st Division from 26th November 1915. See:
There is no further individual record for Herbert Bramwell. The war diary of the 1st Battalion East Yorkshire Regiment is available to download in two parts (GBP 3.30 each) from The National Archives:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Mick
Date: Saturday 3rd October 2015 at 5:41 PM

Thank you Alan for the information, do you know Herbert's number when he was in the army?

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 3rd October 2015 at 6:14 PM

Dear Mick,
It was 17699, Private, East Yorkshire Regiment, 1st Battalion
With kind regards,
Reply from: Mick
Date: Saturday 3rd October 2015 at 6:54 PM

Thank you Alan for your help.

Posted by: David English {Email left}
Location: Farnborough Hampshire
Date: Thursday 1st October 2015 at 10:55 AM
Good morning Alan - can you research WW2 Royal Navy Service records ?

If so my father (now 88) served on the HMS Terpsichore in WW2 his name is Cyril John English DOB - 14/10/1928

He was born in Kilburn North London

Many thanks in advance

Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 1st October 2015 at 1:03 PM

Dear David,
Service records from the Second World War are not in the public domain. However, your father is entitled to apply for his own records. See:
With kind regards,
Posted by: Catherine {Email left}
Location: Kent
Date: Wednesday 30th September 2015 at 4:46 PM
Hello, wonder if you can help. While researching my family ww1 history i came across my husbands great uncle - i was surprised as i have had a lot of trouble finding out irish info. He was with the irish guards and died 6 nov 1914 and his name (MIchael O'Neill) is on the menin gate memorial. I have found his medal card which says he was awarded 2 medals. I thought that soldiers in the BEF that fought in 1914-15 were awarded 3 medals? Also his medal card had no address on it. Does this mean his parents may not have received the medals? Would they have received the death plaque? My mum-in-law (her mum was Kate O'Neill - Michael's sister) says the story she was told was that Michael went away to join the british army and his family never saw or heard from him again. He was from a small village near Labasheeda, CO Clare and i wondered if due to the political issues in Ireland after ww1 that some medals were not sent or received. My dad also has no recollection of seeing medals that his dad was awarded for service with RIR. Thanks
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 30th September 2015 at 7:12 PM

Dear Catherine,
The medal rolls index-card for Michael O�Neill, 2960, Irish Guards is a record card for the 1914 Star which was instigated in 1917. The actual medal roll to which it refers (I.G./1/104) showed he was awarded the 1914 Star on 24th November 1917. After the war, two other campaign medals were instigated, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal which were added to the record card for the 1914 Star with a rubber stamp and are recorded on the medal roll I.G./106/B page 89. Medal index-cards for soldiers do not include an address. That part of the card is always blank unless an officer had corresponded with the medal office. After the war, the medals were automatically despatched to the next-of-kin which in this case was listed in the Army Registers of Soldiers Effects as John O�Neill, the father. The memorial plaque and scroll would also have been despatched automatically.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Catherine
Date: Wednesday 30th September 2015 at 8:27 PM

Wow, thanks for the quick reply - this is really helpful. I have only just dipped my toe into the WW1 research and it can be a bit overwhelming and confusing. I thought it was odd that both my grand dads and numerous great uncles fought in WW1 but there was never any evidence as in medals or photographs - but having visited a lot of research forums I realise there are lots of people in the same position. Thank you again. Best regards
Posted by: Marion {Email left}
Location: Shepperton
Date: Tuesday 29th September 2015 at 4:28 PM
Hi, Alan
I would be grateful for any information regarding a cousin of my grandfather's, recently discovered during family research, who was killed in France in WW1.

He was James Baggott SHEPPARD, service no. 85538, C Battery, 250th Brigade of the Royal Field Artillery. I know that he died aged 28 on 13th April 1918 in the 47th Casualty Clearing Centre, that he is buried in the British Cemetery at Picquigny, and that he is commemorated on the war memorials at both Dunwich and Westleton in Suffolk.

I would be very interested to learn more about the history and origins of his regiment and their role in France, and to know if there are any specific details of his service and subsequent death in the records.

Hope you can help - thank you for your time.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 30th September 2015 at 4:14 PM

Dear Marion,
No individual service record has survived for James Sheppard so it is not possible to state his wartime service. He died of wounds at the 47th Casualty Clearing Station on 13th April 1918. On the day he died, he was serving with the 250th Brigade Royal Field Artillery (1st Northumberland). He might not have served with them throughout his time abroad. The 250th Brigade RFA (known at the time as the CCL Brigade RFA designated with Roman numerals) went to France in April 1915. The Army medal rolls show James Baggott Sheppard first arrived in France on 27th July 1915, so he would either have been part of a draft of reinforcements, or he arrived while serving in a different brigade before being posted to the 250th Brigade. Soldiers Died in the Great War stated James Baggott Sheppard, from Suffolk, enlisted at Ipswich. His regimental number, 85538, does not match the original numbers allotted to men of the 1st Northumbrian Brigade RFA which were originally four-digit numbers that were replaced with six-digit numbers ranging from 750001 to 755000 in January 1917. So, it seems likely he was posted to the 250th Brigade RFA sometime after July 1915 when he first arrived in France.
The 250th Brigade RFA existed before the war as the 1st Northumbrian Brigade RFA and was based at Newcastle upon Tyne; part of the 50th (Northumbrian) Division. See:
The 250th Brigade RFA suffered heavy casualties when the enemy broke through the British lines during the German Spring Offensive of 1918 which began on March 21st 1918 (Operation Michael). The 250th Brigade RFA then moved from the Somme to fight at Estaires and Hazebrouck. A Casualty Clearing Station could treat a patient for up to four weeks, so Gunner Sheppard would probably have been wounded whilst the Brigade was still on the Somme possibly in the fighting at Rosières, Somme, about March 27th when a series of actions took place as six British Divisions were attacked from the front, sides and rear by eleven German Divisions. The cemetery at Picquigny was created by the Casualty Clearing Stations in the area. The 47th Casualty Clearing Station was based at Rosières-en-Santerre, Somme, during March and April 1918 to help cope with the casualties of the Spring Offensive before moving to Picquigny, to the rear of Amiens, later in April 1918. Gunner Sheppard qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Reply from: Marion
Date: Wednesday 30th September 2015 at 9:25 PM

Alan, thank you very much for replying so quickly, and for the information. I did not imagine when I first came across James during my research that I would be able to learn so much about what happened to him. He came from a large Suffolk family (his mother had 16 children, 13 of whom survived into adulthood), and had been named after his maternal grandfather (James Baggott), who died the year before he born. I am so pleased that our family now have an opportunity to remember and honour him, and have sent a poppy with his name on (and donation) to the Royal British Legion, to be planted in the 2015 Flanders Field. Thank you again for your excellent service - we really appreciate the work that you do.

Posted by: Pete {Email left}
Location: East Riding
Date: Friday 25th September 2015 at 10:00 PM
Dear Alan
I wonder if you can help me find more about this man.
HUGH HARRY EDWARD QUIN COLES who was born 29 March 1897 in Staines Middlesex.

Service record - Soldier Number: 5178, Rank: Private, Corps: Honourable Artillery Company Infantry
Service record 2 Rank: Second Lieutenant, Corps: Royal Irish Fusiliers
I understand his attestation date was 16 Nov 1915.

I am most interested to find out more abut his military career, and whether he remained in the army after the war.
With many thanks
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 26th September 2015 at 6:27 PM

Dear Pete,
Hugh Coles was baptised at the church of St Philip, Buckingham Palace Road, the son of Harry and Annie Coles, of 31 Chester Terrace, Eaton Square, London S.W.. He was educated at Hurstpierpoint College. He joined the Honourable Artillery Company at the age of 18 on the 16th November 1915 and underwent his basic training. In December 1916 he was posted as part of a draft of reinforcements to join the 1st Battalion H.A.C. which was serving with the 190th Infantry Brigade in the 63rd Division at the time. The 190th Infantry Brigade was formed in July 1916 in France and the 1st H.A.C. remained with them until 29th June 1917. They were engaged in The Operations on the Ancre (January to March 1917); The Second Battle of the Scarpe (23rd and 24th April 1917); and The Battle of Arleux, a phase of the Arras Offensive (28th and 29th April 1917). The 1st H.A.C. then moved to G.H.Q. Troops. In the last quarter of 1917 it is likely Hugh Coles attended an Officer Cadet School as he was among a group of men from the H.A.C. who were commissioned as Second Lieutenants early in 1918. However, the H.A.C. membership was made up of gentlemen and he might have been commissioned without the usual four month long officer cadet training in England. Hugh was commissioned on 6th February 1918 when he joined the amalgamated 7th/8th Battalion Princess Victorias Royal Irish Fusiliers which was serving with the 49th Infantry Brigade in the 16th (Irish) Division. See:
The Royal Irish Fusiliers were on the Somme when the German advance of March 21st 1918 (Operation Michael) took the British by surprise and forced them into a retreat. The retreat continued with the Battle of Rosierres on March 26th and 27th. See:
Second Lieutenant Hugh Coles was reported missing and believed captured in this battle. An index card of the International Committee of the Red Cross recorded he was captured at Erches on the 27th March 1918 and eventually held at Schweidnitz POW camp which was an officer camp in what was then a small prettily situated town (pop 31, 3000) on the Weistritz. The building in which the officers were interned was once an infirmary and consisted of the usual brick barracks. There was a church in a garden of about one acre. Schweidnitz is now Swidnica, a city in south-western Poland in the region of Silesia. There are some details about the camp at:
Hugh was repatriated and arrived in the UK on Christmas Day 1918. He qualified for the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
It would be necessary to see his personal service file to establish whether he continued to serve after he was repatriated or whether he returned to civilian life immediately. In March 1919 he volunteered to join the North Russia Relief Force which was raised help extricate the North Russian Expedition. He served in Russia attached to the 45th Battalion Royal Fusiliers in the Archangel Command. In Russia he won the Military Cross which was Gazetted on 21st January 1920.
For the splendid manner in which he kept his guns right forward with the attacking infantry and with only two men left of a gun team destroyed at least one enemy block-house and one machine gun strongpoint in face of very heavy fire. He was subsequently severely wounded. See:
His service record is held at The National Archives. See:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Pete
Date: Saturday 26th September 2015 at 7:31 PM

Hello Alan,
Once again you have come up trumps with such a detailed history of his military career. I am sure I would never have found all of this out on my own.
Many thanks for making him come to life.

Posted by: Mangoman {Email left}
Location: Bristol
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 7:47 PM
Reading the War Diary of the 1st/1st South Midlands Brigade RFA they refer to Little Willies and White Hopes. What were these in the context of WW1?
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 8:43 PM

Dear Mangoman,
Little Willie was a nickname for Wilhelm, The Crown Prince of Prussia and the German Empire (Kronprinz Wilhelm von Preussen; 6th May 1882 to 20th July 1951). Big Willie was a nickname for Kaiser Wilhelm of the Kingdom Prussia and the German Empire who ruled from 15th June 1888 to 9th November 1918. However, the British troops applied the nicknames to a variety of things including a particular long-range French naval gun fired on the Western Front. Many of these 340mm guns known as the 45 Modele were railway mounted.
Willie was also used in the context of Whistling Willie which referred to any German high trajectory gun and its whistling shells.
White Hope might have been a local nickname as its origin is more circuitous. I stand to be corrected but it probably relates to boxing parlance and the British soldier slang for the German heavy shells named after a famous boxer. Close range shots meant that the shell arrived before the sound of the gun being fired. These were known as whiz-bangs. The German 15cm shell gave off clouds of black smoke when bursting and these types of shell were nick-named Jack Johnsons after the famous black American boxer Jack Johnson (1878 to1946) who held the world heavyweight championship title between 1908 and 1915.
On December 26th 1908, Tommy Burns and Jack Johnson met in Sydney. Fourteen rounds later, the fight had to be stopped for fear of a white riot at the sight of Burns getting beaten so soundly. Johnson was crowned the first black world heavyweight champion. In 1908 it was unique for a black boxer to fight a white boxer in the championship let alone beat him. Sporting circles were aghast and an American author, journalist, and social activist, Jack London, wrote a treatise suggesting the white American boxer Jim Jeffries should emerge from retirement and regain the title. London described this as the Great White Hope. In boxing parlance a White Hope was a white man who would be a contender to win back the title from a black man. Hence, white hope became an expression for anticipating victory.
The allusion to boxing metaphors in the artillery relates to the surprise knock-out blow. Boxing, of course, was a particular sport of the British Army with Army Boxing Championships dating from 1896.
I hope that fits the context, as a Jack Johnson was one of the enemy shells and it would appear a White Hope could have been a retaliatory shell of the Royal Artillery.
With kind regards,
Posted by: Mangoman {Email left}
Location: Bristol
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 11:24 AM
I am researching the military service of my grandparents during WW1 but am struggling to establish what the S.A.A was in the Royal Field Artillery? Have Googled it but no joy.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 11:31 AM

It is probably Small Arms Ammunition which would be supplied by the R.F.A. ammunition column.
Reply from: Mangoman
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 11:38 AM

Many thanks for your help Alan. Can now continue with my epistle.
Posted by: D Paul {Email left}
Location: France
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 10:56 AM
I have done a very concise trace of my maternal Grandfather 5052 John Henry James Oatley but on 17/08/1918 he was mentioned in dispatches and awarded the French medal "Medalle Militaire" for gallantry in the field but I cannot find what the gallant act was. Listed below is his movement history from another helpful website.

5052 Oatley was certainly as fine an example of a pre-war regular as you can, get rising to the highest NCO rank possible. I will though confine myself to his RGA war period only as that is what I research and what the forum is concerned with. This is my interpretation of his record but I note there are some anomalies in his service records.

15.10.12 41 Coy (Company) Based at the Citadel Plymouth

08.04.13 36 Coy (Company) also based at Plymouth

13.04.15 Trench Mortar Bty (I do not research)

08.05.15 posted to 16 Sge Bty, as Sgt. This was a 6in Howitzer Bty formed at Pembroke Dock.

20.07.15 Entry to theatre of war (Western Front) with 16 Sge Bty, confirmed on MIC and Medal Roll, rank Sgt. A 6in howitzer Bty initially of the older 30cwt type.

27.01.16 posted to 77 Sge Bty following promotion as BQMS (back in England), a mechanized 8in Howitzer Bty that went out to the Western Front in March 1916 but without Oatley. This promotion was typical of the time where experienced veteran NCO�s were desperately needed to become the backbone of the Kitchener new army batteries been raised.

05.03.16 posted to 115 Sge Bty as BQMS again where his experience was most needed.

13.03.16 appointed a/BSM) & confirmed substantive rank thereof . On 26.06.16 when the Bty was at Bexhill he is mentioned in the 115 Sge Bty WD as �sick and sent to hospital�. This 6in How Bty embarked for France the following day but without Oatley.

To �B� Siege Depot which was based at Bexhill

27.11.16 appointed a/RSM. RSM over BSM always signifies home establishment; training newly formed Arty brigades. The very first thing a Major charged with raising a Bty, or a Lt Col a Bde, was to get themselves a experienced BSM or RSM to kick start the process.

28.02.17 Posted to 90 HAG (Heavy Arty Group) which subsequently became 90 Brigade RGA. This was a higher formation grouping of assorted batteries under control of a Lieut Colonel.

There is a book concerning this Brigade called �Nine Days. The adventures of a Heavy Arty Brigade of the Third Army during the German offensive of March 21-29 1918�. In the foreword it says:

�The Ninetieth Brigade RGA- or as it was in those days, the 90th Heavy Arty Group- came into being at Lydd in early 1917. Its father was Lieut Colonel A.H. Thorp RGA who returned from the BEF for the event; and its mother was RSM J.H. Oatley�..� There is no other mention of him in said book but its still quite an accolade and a very good read!

After the war he was renumbered 1400045 and posted to Bermuda where he was finally discharged.

derek paul
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 7:13 PM

Dear Derek,
The reasons for the awards of the MID and the Médaille Militaire will prove to be elusive as details were not published nationally and so the only source generally is the certificate or citation that came with the award and would be retained in family papers. Publication of the awards was often many weeks or months after the events for which they had been earned.
The Mention in Despatches for J H J Oatley was published On December 14th 1917 in a supplement to the official government publication The London Gazette dated 11th December 1917 that referred to the Despatch from Sir Douglas Haig to the War Office dealing with the period February 26th 1917 to midnight September 20th/ 21st 1917, which included the names of those officers, men and women �whose distinguished and gallant services and devotion to duty I consider deserving of special mention�. The list was published in six supplements. No specific details of the Mentions in Despatches were recorded; they were simply published in lists of recipients. A bronze oak leaf emblem was awarded to be worn on the ribbon of the Victory Medal.
The following year, The London Gazette recorded that the foreign medals and decorations approved by the King on 17th August 1918 were awarded by the Allied Powers at various dates to the British Forces for distinguished service rendered during the course of the campaign. The campaign itself being the recent fighting on the Western Front in France.
Citations for these medals were not published nationally and the official French publication announcing the award listed only names and regiments. It is possible the MID and Médaille Militaire were awarded for separate reasons. The wording in the London Gazette is generalised to distinguished service and could have related to service over a period of time rather than a specific event.
The London Gazette can be searched online:
Search under All Notices, enter surname and adjust publication date with a few days leeway either side of the date you are seeking.
The Journal Officiel de la République Francais can be read online:
Searches can be made within individual editions using the pop-out search button on the left of the page, but you need to know which edition to search!
For the events of 1917 see Sir Douglas Haig�s Despatches which are transcribed at:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Derek
Date: Friday 25th September 2015 at 2:59 PM

Very many thanks for you efforts I think I will just have to wonder what he did as He died before I was born
and the family have very limited knowledge
Posted by: Ann Watterworth {Email left}
Location: Toronto Canada
Date: Tuesday 22nd September 2015 at 2:42 PM
I am purchasing a WW1 wooden footlocker for my 13 year old son for Christmas. On the footlocker is stencilled Lieut H.E.Noble, 1st (Gn) Bn Yorks Regt.

I have been advised that this is an import from the UK. I would love to be able to tell my son who it belonged to and or even to trace the actual section in the army it relates to but I can't find anything on line. It is possible that the G is actually a C but I don't think so. Any help you could provide would be very much appreciated.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 22nd September 2015 at 8:32 PM

Dear Ann,
The 1st (Gn) Bn Yorks Regiment would refer to the 1st Garrison Battalion Yorkshire Regiment in India 1914 to 1918. The Garrison description was temporarily used whilst in India where there were 18 Garrison Battalions during the First World War, mainly of men who were unfit or too old for front line service in a war zone. However, the 1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment was a professional regular army battalion that had remained in India and was titled a Garrison Battalion during the war.
Other than the present-day Yorkshire Regiment formed by amalgamations in June 2006, The Yorkshire Regiment held that title from 1902 until 1921. In 1902, it took the title: 1st Battalion, Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own (Yorkshire Regiment). The 1st Battalion Yorkshire Regiment was stationed in England from 1902 until 1908 when it went to Egypt, moving to Sudan in 1910 and to Sialkot, India, in 1912. From 1914 to 1918 the Battalion remained in India which was not a war zone. In 1914 they were at Barian, Punjab, attached to 2nd (Rawalpindi) Division. In November 1914, they briefly moved to the Delhi Brigade in the 7th (Meerut) Divisional Area. They were based at Rawalpindi in 1917 to 1918 where they held the title 1st GN Battalion (Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own) Yorkshire Regiment, with a capitalised GN pre-fix. Then they joined the Kohat Brigade on the North West Frontier where they took part in Third Afghan War in 1919. They were in Palestine later in 1919 and returned to India at Madras in 1920. On January 1st 1921 the Battalion took the new title 1st Battalion The Green Howards (Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own Yorkshire Regiment). A memorial in St. Johns Church, Peshawar reads: In memory of the officers, NCOs and men of the 1st Battalion the Green Howards (Princess Alexandra's Own Yorkshire Regiment) who were killed in action in Afghanistan 1919 or died during the time the battalion was stationed in Peshawar Jan 1918 to Jan 1920. In 1922 they were at Secunderabad and then Egypt, in 1925 for a year, before returning to Strensall Barracks, York, England, in 1926.

It has not proved possible to identify H.E. Noble with the Yorkshire Regiment in the wartime Army Lists or The London Gazette. If he served after 1920 his service record would not be in the public domain. He might have been mentioned in the regimental magazine. You could enquire at the regimental museum which is The Green Howards Museum, Trinity Church Square, Richmond, North Yorkshire, DL10 4QN. The museum does not keep individual service records. As is customary in the UK, regimental museums charge a fee of GBP 30 for each research enquiry. They have an application form available online at:
With kind regards,
Reply from: Ann Watterworth
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 11:50 AM

Thank you so much for this information. Is very helpful. I will pursue my inquiries with the museum to see if we can get any information on H. E. Noble. So it seems that it would be more correct to describe the footlocker as World War I era as opposed to a World War I Footlocker. I think my son will enjoy it in any event. I really appreciate your quick response and will be happy to make a donation to the legion. Since I am located in Canada would it be OK if I made the donation to the Royal Canadian Legion?
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Wednesday 23rd September 2015 at 11:59 AM

Dear Ann,
Thank you for making a donation to charity. The Royal Canadian Legion would appreciate it.

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