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Posted by: Julie Fiveash {Email left}
Location: Horsham
Date: Tuesday 19th April 2016 at 3:28 PM
Dear Alan,

I had a Great Uncle (by marriage), James Ellis, RFA 38026, WW1, is there anything you could tell me about his service record,

Many thanks

Julie
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 19th April 2016 at 10:15 PM

Dear Julie,
James Ellis enlisted at Poplar, London, on 30th September 1914, aged 24, and served as a driver with the Royal Field Artillery, training at Preston, Lancashire. He was posted to 101 Battery R.F.A. (CI Battery in Roman numerals) and went to France from Southampton on 4th September 1915. The Battery served with the 22nd Division, a division that was almost immediately notified it would be deployed to Macedonia. The move was made after a period of training at Marseilles and James arrived at Salonika, Greece, at the beginning of December 1915.
On 19th July 1916, James Ellis was posted to 98th Brigade R.F.A. which was an administrative rather than a physical move as the 98th Brigade (XCVIII Brigade) was also within the 22nd Division. The Division was engaged at the Battle of Horseshoe Hill (10th – 18th August 1916; the Battle of Machukovo (13th – 14th September 1916) and the Battles of Doiran in April and May 1917.
For an overview of the fighting in Macedonia see Chris Baker’s website, The Long, Long Trail at:
http://www.1914-1918.net/salonika.htm
In March 1918, James Ellis contracted malaria. He was treated from 22nd March 1918 at 60th General Hospital, Salonika, and was removed to Malta which was the location of numerous hospitals. He sailed for England in May 1918, arriving on the 22nd. He was treated at the Southern Command Malaria Concentration Centre at Larkhill. Once recovered, in June 1918 he was posted to 30th Brigade, a reserve R.F.A. brigade at Swanage, and then sent to France on 22nd September 1918 where he joined 32nd Brigade (XXXII) which had been serving with 4th Division throughout the war from 1914. James would have been in France at the time of the Division’s engagements at The Battle of the Canal du Nord; The Battle of the Selle and The Battle of Valenciennes during the advances of late 1918.
On 26th March 1919, James sailed for the UK from Havre, France, aboard SS “Duke of Clarence”. He was discharged from Aldershot on 3rd May 1919. He qualified for the 1914-15 Star; the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Julie
Date: Wednesday 20th April 2016 at 8:12 AM

Dear Alan,

Thank you so much. I was looking through some of my late mum's thinks and found a crucifix with his tag attached with his details. We actually knew little about him, so this information has been well received.

Thank you again

Julie

Posted by: Pete {Email left}
Location: Yorkshire
Date: Monday 18th April 2016 at 9:10 PM
Hello again Alan,
You will recall helping me last week with Frederick Cornish, and in my letter of thanks I mentioned his father Henry J Cornish. I have been searching for more information about him, and so far have been unsuccessful, so I wonder if I may call upon your skills once more.
All I have found is this - 1861 RG9 4479 P 6 7 April Census County
British Ships in Home Ports - Vessel name Wellesley. Number of guns 72
Moored in River Medway at Chatham Capt G Goldsmith C B
Henry J Cornish 15 1846 Boy 2nd Class Born St Clement Danes Middlesex

With kind regards

Pete
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 19th April 2016 at 5:09 PM

Dear Peter,
The parish of St Clement Danes relates to The Strand, London. It is one of the churches claiming the rhyme “Oranges and Lemons; the Bells of St Clements”. Henry John Cornish, born 30th August 1845 at St Clement Danes enlisted in the Royal Navy as a Boy 2nd Class, aged 16, on 21st February 1861 at HMS Fisgard, Woolwich. He was 5ft tall; with dark complexion, brown hair and hazel eyes. On 30th August 1863 (his eighteenth birthday) he agreed to serve 10 years as a man. However, it appears he did not continue to serve. His service record (ADM139/559.158) is blank. In 1861 HMS Wellesley was a receiving ship housing recruits at Chatham and moored in the river Medway. The UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1853-1928 for Henry Jno Cornish appears to record that he was with the training ship HMS St Vincent on 31st March 1866 and served three years as a man up to May 1867.

The 1841 census for Newcastle Street, off The Strand, London, recorded a house occupied in New Castle Street by a John Cornish, carpenter, born in Middlesex, aged 51. Ages above 15 in the 1814 census were rounded down to the nearest five, so the age of 51 was unusually recorded as being what appears to be an accurate age. John Cornish would have been born in 1790. The next entry appears to be his wife, Martha, who was aged 45 (born between 1791 -96) with the following residents: Henry Cornish, aged 20 (1816 – 1821) born Middlesex; Ann Cornish, 16; Thomas Cornish 14; Emma Cornish, 5. In the same house were Augusta Nettle, a servant, and three German musicians: Les Cahn; Christian Frisch; and Frederick Schneider. There was also John Harvey; 34, carrier (not born Middlesex); John Livett, 30, clerk; born Middlesex; Sarah Livett (wife?) 30; not born Middlesex; and Charles Livett; aged one, born Middlesex (England and Wales census, 1841; HO107; Piece no. 731; book 10; folio 5 page 2).
The Henry Cornish born in 1821 was the son of John Boon Cornish, a carpenter, and his wife Martha, and was baptised at St Giles Without Cripplegate on January 31st 1821; born 10th January 1821.
The 1851 census recorded a Martha Cornish, widow, aged 54, born at sea, British; carpenter (sic) living at Newcastle Street with an unmarried daughter, Ann, 25, dressmaker, and a married son, Henry, 30; mariner; with, Henry J. Cornish, aged 5, grandson, born Middlesex. The household also had an Irish servant Helen Vaughan and a widowed visitor named Albertine de la Ginandieu (indexed as “Ginandine”) from France (1851 census HO 107; piece 1511; folio 293; page 2).
From the censuses, Henry John Cornish, born 1845, appears to be the son of Henry Cornish, born about 1821. The 1861 census entry is the only record for Henry John Cornish serving in the Royal Navy with HMS Wellesley. In all the subsequent census records, Henry J. Cornish, born St Clement Danes, was recorded as a house painter. He married Letitia Josephine Walker at St Saviours Church, Upper Chelsea in 1869. They had six surviving sons, Herbert, Albert, Arthur, Henry, Walter and Frederick.
The family lived at Exeter Place, Chelsea, in 1871 and 1881 and at Surrey Lane, Battersea, in 1891 and 1901. Letitia died in January 1897; Henry John Cornish died in 1903.
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Pete
Date: Tuesday 19th April 2016 at 9:07 PM

Hello again Alan,
Thank you so much for such a detailed history of Henry John Cornish and his family. It is a pity that there are no other records of his time at sea, even though it was so short.
You absolutely amaze me as to how much you can find in such a short time.
Thank you again,
Kind regards

Pete

Posted by: Tess {Email left}
Location: Newton Abbot
Date: Sunday 17th April 2016 at 9:33 PM
Hello Alan,
I am seeking, please, any record for Walter Robert Griffin. Born 1901 in Limehouse-Tower Hamlets
His family believe he was a PE instructor and something to do with secret Airfields but told them he had signed the official secret act and couldn't talk about it.

The nearest I can get is a Royal Tank Corps Enlistment Record for Walter Robert Griffin, son of Walter Griffin of 22 Oban Street, Poplar.Age 18, Birth year 1901. Birth parish: Stepney, London
Occupation: furniture maker. Royal Tank Corps Service number: 535860. Previous service number 78864 in 13th Hussars
Enlistment date: 01 Sep 1919 at Stratford
Discharged: 31.08.1931 at Canterbury, Kent under Kings Regulations Para 497 (vii)
Rank on discharge: Tpr = Trooper?. Character on discharge=Good
Remarks: B108:- 13/18/H/594 = no idea!

This might be the right man - but doesn't accord with what they know - and doesn't sound like a secret life?
Thanks
tess
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Sunday 17th April 2016 at 10:32 PM

Dear Tess,
Records of men who served after 1920 are held by the Ministry of Defence and are protected by the Data Protection Act. The MoD will conduct a search for £30 and release certain information to next-of-kin or general enquirers who can provide proof of the serviceman’s death. See:
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/overview
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Tess
Date: Sunday 17th April 2016 at 10:58 PM

Thanks Alan,
A helpful note. I will pass this information on to the relatives.
Tess
Posted by: Charlie Cockerline {Email left}
Location: St Thomas Ontario Canada
Date: Saturday 16th April 2016 at 12:14 AM
Hi Alan:
Now for something completely different. I am researching Nurse Cockerline employed at the Chesterton Union Workhouse infirmary (in Chesterton, Cambridgeshire I think) who requests termination of her employment as of Saturday, March 28, 1914 in order to take up a new position at the "British Hospital" in France. And that is where my information dries up. This from a newspaper item: Cambridge Independent Press, 27 March, 1914, p. 8.
I was hoping you might know of where to look for photos/images of old workhouses and possibly the whereabouts of nursing records of those who served in France. I know...it's searching for the proverbial needle. Any tips would be most welcome.
Cheers!
Charlie
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 16th April 2016 at 7:48 PM

Dear Charlie,
You would be very fortunate to find biographical records relating to a British nurse who was employed in France before the outbreak of the First World War. There is no evidence nurse Cockerline remained in France during the War, nor is there evidence for which nursing service might have employed her. So, some analytical vigour needs to be applied.
In 1913, The Cambridge Independent Press of Friday 26th December 1913 stated the Chesterton Board of Guardians had received a letter from the Local Government Board sanctioning the appointment of Miss Cockerline as a nurse at the Chesterton Workhouse (© Local World Limited/Trinity Mirror, courtesy British Library Board via British Newspaper Archive). Three months later, nurse Cockerline sought termination of her employment at Chesterton as of Saturday, March 28, 1914, in order to take up a new position at the “British Hospital” in France.
In March 1915, the Exeter Workhouse in Devonshire appointed a Miss A.S. Cockerline, aged 27, of Hull, as a nurse. She held a midwifery certificate (Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Wednesday 10 March 1915 © Local World Limited; ibid). In May 1915, the governors of the Exeter Workhouse received nurse Cockerline’s resignation from her post as an assistant nurse because she had accepted a position for which she had applied before joining the Exeter Workhouse (Western Times - Wednesday 19 May 1915 © Local World Limited/Trinity Mirror; ibid).
The 1911 census of England and Wales recorded an Ada Sophia Cockerline, born at Weeton, East Yorkshire, who was employed as a 24 year old asylum nurse at the East Riding Lunatic Asylum, Walkington, Beverley, East Riding of Yorkshire. The 1891 census recorded her as the daughter of George Cockerline, a farm bailiff, and Leah Cockerline, living in a cottage at Weeton Road, Welwick, Patrington, East Riding of Yorkshire. Welwick is a village close to Weeton. The General Register Office recorded the birth of Ada Sophia Cockerline at Patrington district in 1887 (GRO Births April – June 1887, Patrington, Yorkshire East Riding, volume 9d; page 306). Yorkshire was divided into three geographical areas, known as “ridings”, each of which formed a separate administrative county. The East Riding of Yorkshire was centred on the port of Hull and the county town of Beverley.
An Ada Sophia Cockerline married George H. Moore at Chelmsford, Essex, in 1917 (GRO Marriages July-September 1917, Chelmsford, Essex, Volume 4a; page 1147). Ada Sophia Moore died in 1971 (GRO Deaths July-September 1971, age at death 84; date of birth 16th March 1887; Holderness, Yorkshire East Riding, volume 2a; Page 274). Patrington registration district was absorbed by Holderness district in 1937. Holderness is the coastal and agricultural area of the East Riding.

At the outbreak of war in August 1914, female nursing services were not rudimentary but did rely on skilled improvisation and widespread voluntary effort. British nurses in France could be volunteers of the Red Cross and St John Ambulance Voluntary Aid Detachments, or they could be enlisted in the uniformed military nursing organisations of the Queen Alexandra’s Imperial Military Nursing Service (QAINMS); the Queen Alexandra’s Imperial Military Nursing Service (Reserve) QAIMNS(R); or the Territorial Force Nursing Service (TFNS).
Most individual records of British military nurses were destroyed during the German bombing of London in 1940. Records of volunteer nurses of the Red Cross and the Voluntary Aid Detachments trained by the St John Ambulance have not survived in their entirety.
According to the newspaper article, Nurse Cockerline left the Chesterton workhouse in March 1914. Details of the Chesterton workhouse can be seen at:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Chesterton/
Cambridge Archives holds the workhouse Guardians’ minutes which might record her letter requesting her release in more detail but it is unlikely any individual workhouse staff records have survived. The infirmary of a workhouse was available to the general public, not just to workhouse inmates, and served as a local hospital.
The newspaper article was published in March 1914, five months before the outbreak of the Great War, so the “British Hospital” would have been a pre-war, civilian, establishment; which by its nature implied it would have been operated by a charitable organisation.
The British Hospital Association had been founded by 1904 to establish charitable hospitals through the work of Conrad Thies, secretary of the Royal Free Hospital in London, but many countries had an establishment named “The British Hospital”. The most likely locations for a British Hospital in France in 1914 would be the capital, Paris, and the French Mediterranean coast which had a British expatriate community and a large seasonal British population escaping the English winter months for the warmer French winter season: “la saison hivernale”. Queen Victoria made the French Riviera (Côte d'Azur) on the Mediterranean sea a fashionable destination. On her first visits to Nice in 1895 and 1896 the Queen stayed in the Grand Hôtel in Cimiez above Nice. On her next three visits she stayed in the Excelsior Hôtel Regina, Cimiez, which had been built with royal requirements in mind. The Queen travelled with a staff of one hundred people.
While the “British Hospital” in France is a vague reference, it was probably the British Hospital in western Paris. It was formally named the Hertford British Hospital and had been founded in 1871 by Sir Richard Wallace for the medical and surgical treatment of “indigent [needy] and sick British nationals in and around Paris”. It was named after Sir Richard’s father, the 4th Marquess of Hertford. The Hertford British Hospital retains some original buildings which were opened on its site at Levallois-Perret outside the Fort de Champerret, Neuilly-sur-Seine, in 1879. The hospital is still active as the Institut Hospitalier Franco-Britannique. The hospital is administered from the Hertford British Hospital Corporation, 3 Rue Barbes, Levallois-Perrett, Paris, France, 92300.
Another “British Hospital” in France was the Queen Victoria Memorial Hospital at Mont Boron in Nice on the Mediterranean Coast (Hôpital Anglais au Col de Nice) which opened in 1906. It was the first facility to be offered to the French at the outbreak of war in 1914.
There was also the Sunny Bank Hospital in Cannes, established in 1892 “for the treatment of grave medical and surgical cases of illness occurring in the families of residents for the Season, and visitors to the hotels”. It was demolished on 8th April 1997.
If nurse Cockerline was in fact Ada Sophia Cockerline, she might have remained employed by the “British Hospital” in France in 1914, or she might have returned to the U.K. to serve at Exeter in 1915, or joined a uniformed nursing service. Had she married in 1917, subsequent records would be in her married surname which would have been Moore.
The first volunteer nurses in Belgium and France were known as “dressers” because they dressed wounds. The earliest to arrive from England were in Brussels, Belgium, by 14th August 1914, with a small Voluntary Aid Detachment with the British Red Cross who had to escape when Brussels was captured by the Germans on August 16th 1914. Another early group was founded by Millicent, Duchess of Sutherland, who arranged for an ambulance unit bearing her name to be sent to Namur in Belgium. This group was over-run by the Germans, while caring for wounded Belgian soldiers before managing to return to Britain via the Netherlands. In France, wartime nursing needs in French Army military hospitals were first met by British certificated nurses in the French Flag Nursing Corps, founded in October, 1914, by an English lady educated in France. The central body of the Red Cross in London co-ordinated and expedited the various units accepted by the French, to prevent overlapping and waste and, in conjunction with the Anglo-French Committee of the British Red Cross and the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, checked the credentials of volunteers. The first offer made to the French Government was that of the Queen Victoria Memorial Hospital at Nice in August, 1914. Then, two complete hospital units under the charge of women surgeons left England for France by September 12th 1914.
British Military general hospitals and stationary hospitals were established on the West coast of France, first at Rouen but eventually at 61 locations in France by the end of 1914. The hospitals were named or numbered and the numbering ran into the 80s. These military hospitals of the Royal Army Medical Corps were supplemented by charitable hospitals such as the British Hospital at the Chateau d’Arc-en-Barrois, in a small village located in the north east of France in the Haut-Marne département of the Champagne-Ardenne. This was the Hôpital Temporaire d’Arc-en-Barrois which was managed by Miss Madeleine Bromley-Martin during the War. At the end of 1914, there was discussion about providing hospitals for British officers at Nice, Cannes and Monaco on the French Riviera.
The American Red Cross was also very active in France and Flanders.
The best online over-view of military nursing is the Scarlet Finders website at:
http://www.scarletfinders.co.uk/
The U.K. National Archives has a research-guide which links to various resources, but none of them record a nurse named by her maiden name, Cockerline. The guide is at:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-nurses/
The British Red Cross museum will conduct searches of records for a minimum donation of £10. See:
http://www.redcross.org.uk/About-us/Who-we-are/Museum-and-archives/Resources-for-researchers/Volunteers-and-personnel-records
There was an Ada Moore who served with the French Red Cross. The only record is a medal record card. See:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6275977
And there was an Ada Moore who served in the Queen Mary’s Army Auxiliary Corps (1917 -1918) which provided cooks, waiting staff and workers. See:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6275978
However, Ada Moore is a frequently occurring name and there is no indication these names relate to one and the same person.
Given the lack of initial information about nurse Cockerline, the detail presented here has been suggested in good faith and is offered for general purposes. It is not possible to warrant the accuracy or completeness of this information.
With kind regards,
Alan
Posted by: Pete {Email left}
Location: Yorkshire
Date: Wednesday 13th April 2016 at 10:49 PM
Dear Alan
I would be most grateful if you can give me any information about Frederick Cornish. It would appear that he served in both the Navy --British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924 Frederick Cornish Service number 230718 Birth date 26 Feb 1888 Birth place Battersea, London and then in the RAF for the period of WW1. I am not sure what happened to him during that time, as I have not traced him in later years.

Many thanks,
Pete
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Thursday 14th April 2016 at 7:35 PM

Dear Pete,
Frederick Cornish enlisted in the Royal Navy on 17th May 1904, aged 16. He was 5ft 4ins; had black hair, blue eyes and a dark complexion. He trained as a Boy Second Class at Torpoint, Devon, on HMS Lion. On 5th December 1904 he was rated Boy First Class. On 5th February 1906 he joined HMS Ocean on which he served in the Mediterranean and Home waters until June 1908 when he was based at Chatham. He was rated Ordinary Seaman on 26th February 1906, which was his eighteenth birthday, when he started 12 years continuous service as a man. Eleven months later he was rated Able Seaman in January 1907. He was based at Chatham until 23rd September 1908. He then served on HMS Cadmus in the Far East. In the 1911 census he was recorded on board HMS Cadmus “in harbour” in China. From 12th October 1911 he joined the shore station “Tamar” at Hong Kong. He spent three months administered by Tamar and a few weeks on HMS Kent before returning to the UK at the end of 1911. In March 1912 he joined HMS Glory (Home Fleet, the Nore, Thames estuary) for a year. From June to November 1913 he was with HMS Endeavour (survey ship). He was administered by Chatham until April 15th 1914 when he was again with Endeavour until 5th February 1915, probably at the Nore, Thames estuary. He then joined HMS Forward for three weeks with the 7th Destroyer Flotilla in the Humber.
From 25th March 1915 he served with the Royal Naval Air Service. He was rated Air Mechanic Class 1 on 5th June 1915; then Leading Mechanic (15th December 1916) and then Petty Officer Mechanic from 1st August 1917. It appears he spent from 1915 to the end of 1917 with the R.N.A.S. in the “E.M. Sqdn” which would have been in the Eastern Mediterranean Squadron that was later re-named the Aegean Squadron. His R.N.A.S. record does not identify any ships or bases.
At the end of 1917, Frederick returned to England and he was at Crystal Palace and Wormwood Scrubs, London, from January to March 1918. Wormwood Scrubs (the open space, not the prison) had been the site of an airship base since 1910. The Daily Mail Airship Garage was built shortly afterwards on the site of what is now the Linford Christie Stadium. In the Great War there was a Wormwood Scrubs Royal Naval Air Station and its airship shed was used to train RNAS armoured car crews. Curiously, the Royal Naval Air Service operated Rolls Royce armoured cars intended for rescuing downed air-crew from enemy territory. Wormwood Scrubs was also home to what became the R.A.F.’s No. 10 Mechanical Transport Repair Depot, so it would be logical that Frederick was working on Mechanical Transport at Wormwood Scrubs just before and after the formation of the R.A.F. in April 1918.
On April 1st 1918 the R.N.A.S. and the Royal Flying Corps became the newly-formed Royal Air Force. Frederick Cornish served with the R.A.F. until January 1919 when he reverted to the Royal Navy until 29th April 1920.
On Friday 26th September 1919, Goddard and Smith Auctioneers offered on behalf of the Ministry of Munitions a Leyland and Peerless mobile Workshop (Peerless was a U.S. chassis manufacturer); a Leyland Ambulance; a Clement-Talbot Wagonette; and a number of second-hand motor lorries; tenders and vans by Maudsley; Peerless; A.E.C.; Crossley and Ford, for auction at 11 a.m. precisely at No 10 M.T. Repair Depot (Royal Air Force) Wormwood Scrubs (The Times [London] 23rd September 1919: page 18; via The Times Digital Archive.) And so began the British road haulage industry.
Records of individuals in the Royal Air Force are available at The National Archives, Kew, Surrey, or online via the Findmypast.co.uk (pay as you go) website. I am unable to transcribe any information from that website as it would be a breach of their terms and conditions.
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Pete
Date: Friday 15th April 2016 at 10:12 PM

Hello Alan, Many thanks for this wonderful description of Frederick's service. It just amazes me as to how quickly and efficiently you manage to retrieve all the information for us.
It really does fill in a good part of his life history. I have now discovered that his father Henry J Cornish born 1845 also went to sea as a boy.

Once again, many thanks

Pete
Posted by: Jon {No contact email}
Location: Glasgow
Date: Tuesday 12th April 2016 at 2:47 PM
Hi Alan,

I was wondering if you could find out any information for some friends, you have been a great help to me in the past.

Rifleman Samuel Gray, 192, 12th Royal Irish Rifles, He was killed on the 25th October 1918 and is buried in Harelbeke Military Cemetery.

Any information would be greatly appreciated

Kind Regards, Jon
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 12th April 2016 at 5:53 PM

Dear Jon,
There is no surviving service record for Samuel Gray so it is not possible to state his military service in detail. He was born at Ballymoney, Co. Antrim; enlisted at Ballymoney and had married a woman named Nancy. The Army medal rolls recorded he served in the 12th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles and went to France on 5th October 1915. The 12th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles was raised in September 1914 from the Antrim Volunteers. In November 1914 it joined 108th Infantry Brigade with the 36th (Ulster) Division at Newtonards. In July 1915 the Battalion moved to Seaford, Sussex, before sailing to France in October 1915. Rifleman Gray had the regimental number 192 which indicates an early enlistment as the numbers would have run from 1 to 1,000 or more.
It seems therefore that he served with the 12th Battalion until he was killed in action on 25th October 1918 which date coincided with the The Action of Ooteghem in Flanders. The engagements of the 36th Division are shown on Chris Baker’s website, The Long, Long Trail. See:
http://www.1914-1918.net/36div.htm
Rifleman Gray qualified for the 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal.
The war diary of the 12th Battalion Royal Irish Rifles can be downloaded (cost £3.45) from:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7354036
After the war, his widow, Nancy, lived at Culduff, Ballymoney.
With kind regards,
Alan
Posted by: Bella {Email left}
Location: Esher
Date: Tuesday 12th April 2016 at 7:07 AM
Dear Alan,

Re my message to you Monday 4h April. I contacted Bob, Editor and he passed my message on.

I had an email from Brisbane this am. Very exciting. Will have lots to tell her plus certificates of B.M.D. photographs plus she has a cousin in California whom I am visiting in September and, wait... a cousin in Queensland! Can't wait to tell them.

I just want to thank you for all your help, past and present and it was pure fluke that I read Jenny's message to you 6 months ago. I often read your message board as I find is so fascinating but I don't usually read that far back. What are the chances, A message to those out there, never give up and miracles happen, thanks to you. Have also written to Bob the Editor thanking him.

With kind regards.

Bella
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Tuesday 12th April 2016 at 11:32 AM

Dear Bella,
I am pleased we have been able to help. Bob will be happy too as he arranges that side of things. Start collecting your air-miles!
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Bella
Date: Tuesday 12th April 2016 at 2:29 PM

Thanks for reply.

Will keep you posted and appreciate all help.

With kind regards.

Bella
Posted by: Donald Sisson {Email left}
Location: Barnsley
Date: Monday 11th April 2016 at 4:18 PM
Can you help with any info on Daniel Lee Service numbers 1174 or 3062 he could have been born in 1884 in Barnsley and could have served in the York and Lancs. Regiment but also could have been in the Royal Defence Corps in 1919?(8119). I was given this information by a friend who is looking into why she was left 2 Boer War Medals with her grandmothers effects of some one she does not think is a relative.
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Monday 11th April 2016 at 7:58 PM

Dear Donald,
Daniel Lee who served in the York and Lancaster Regiment in South Africa and who served in the Royal Defence Corps in the First World War was born in 1874 at Barnsley (GRO Births, April – June 1874, Barnsley, Yorkshire West Riding; Vol 9c; page 182). From the 1881 census he appears to be the son of Daniel and Elizabeth (née Armitage) Lee of Pall Mall, Barnsley. He lived at Pall Mall, Barnsley with his widowed mother in 1891. He enlisted in the 1st Battalion York and Lancaster Regiment in September 1891 and served with the regimental number 3062. He was discharged on 9th March 1899 but was recalled in November that year to fight in the Second Anglo-Boar War (1899 – 1902) in South Africa. He qualified for the Queen’s South Africa medal with six clasps (which is rare): Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, Tugela Heights, Relief of Ladysmith, and Laing’s Nek. He qualified for the King’s South Africa Medal with clasps for 1901 and 1902. He was discharged on 27th April 1903. His relative was recorded as Elizabeth; Pall Mall; Barnsley, which would have been his mother.
In the 1911 census he was recorded as a 36 year old, single, miner, living as a boarder in the home of William and Sarah Ellis at 12 Honeywell Street, Barnsley. A boarder was usually a relative who ate meals at the family table, whereas a lodger generally would not.
Daniel Lee, aged 41, of 12 Honeywell Street, Barnsley, enlisted in the Local Guard of the Territorial Force in Barnsley on 10th January 1915 and two days later was posted to the West Riding of York National Reserve (Mobilized) at York with the regimental number 1174. His next-of-kin was his sister, Sarah Ellis, who was the wife of William Ellis with whom he boarded. He was a former soldier who was by then over 40 and medically graded as B II (able to walk five miles, see and hear sufficiently for ordinary purposes). He had suffered a hernia and rheumatism. The National Reserve was formed in 1913 from the former Veterans’ Reserve. Once the West Riding National Reserve was mobilized it served as a supernumerary company of the 5th Battalion Prince of Wales’s Own (West Yorkshire Regiment). Daniel was promoted to corporal on 22nd July 1915. Upon the formation of the Royal Defence Corps on 29th April 1916, his service transferred to the R.D.C. with the regimental number 8119 and served with 154 Protection Company R.D.C.. Protection Companies provided men to guard key points and installations. He was appointed an acting-sergeant on 11th November 1918. He was dispersed from Clipstone Camp, Nottinghamshire, and was discharged from the army on 23rd March 1919, stating his address would be 12, Honeywell Street, Barnsley.
He appears to have died in 1937 (GRO Deaths, April – June 1937, Barnsley; Vol 9c; page 234; age 63).
With kind regards,
Alan
Posted by: Paul Villiers {Email left}
Location: Somping
Date: Monday 11th April 2016 at 9:07 AM
You could message susie.....Regard,,,,Paul Villiers
Reply from: Donald
Date: Thursday 14th April 2016 at 8:42 AM

Alan
Thanks for this. The information is great.
I have made a donation to your charity
I might be back!
regards
Donald
Posted by: Julie Knott {Email left}
Location: Jarrahdale West Aust
Date: Saturday 9th April 2016 at 6:44 AM
Hello Alan,
Are you able to access WW11 records?. I am trying to find the records of my husbands father
John (Jack) Arthur Knott Driver RASC K13660. Born 25th Sept.1919 Died 22nd May 1972. His address at the time of death 9 Grange Road Hersham. It would be a puzzle we could put together if we could find his records.
My husband never knew his farther or Mother or indeed any of his family as he was put into an orphanage as a young toddler. My husband was born on the 28th Jan 1945. And shipped to Western Australia 1953. He was one of the children of the Lost Empire. Along with many for that came to a land that they did not know. Thanking you in anticipation Julie Knott
Reply from: Alan Greveson
Date: Saturday 9th April 2016 at 11:55 AM

Dear Julie,
Records of individuals from the Second World War are not in the public domain and are held by the U.K. Ministry of Defence. The M.o.D will release certain details about deceased service personnel to next-of-kin or general enquirers for a fee of £30.00. You will need proof of death. See:
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/overview
With kind regards,
Alan
Reply from: Julie Knott
Date: Saturday 9th April 2016 at 12:30 PM

Thank you so much for your prompt reply will follow up on you info.
Reply from: Julie Knott
Date: Saturday 9th April 2016 at 12:31 PM

Thank you so much for your prompt reply will follow up on your info. Once again many thanks

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